Cheers.......Didnt ask to many questions about that.. He did mention he was pouring SG on that day ?? Ill catch up with Jim at the local this Friday, I can ask him then. Gave it a few smacks with a hammer tonight and it didnt leave any marks on it. I know he tempered the working faces. A local Copp had his Anvil stolen a whie aggo, he came to Jim to get a new one cast up and asked to have his name put on the anvil... The lads in the foundry had a bit of a chuccle over that one but it may have started a trend, as Jim didnt even ask If I wanted the mame. He just did it.... I love it to. Time to learn a bit about blacksmithing. First project is the front gates, 2 10 foot swinging gates with a few twisty bits she said.... Still looking for something nice to coppy.