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Not a Fisher! Take a ball bearing to do a rebound test to see if it is cast steel or an ASO!
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That serial number would have been manufactured in 1903. Appears to be in good condition
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Sound deadening, prevents any resonance noise being generated in the legs.
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Steel, then parkerized or treated with a black oxide.
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According to AIA roughly around 1910ish. It has very clear trademark stamping which is pretty cool to see.
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Sound like you need to alter the mechanical ratios from the treadle bar to the motor to make it less touchy and give you a larger window for the sweet spot. Beats per minute, take a 10 second video while at full speed, count the hits and multiply by 6.
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One important thing to learn from alot of these stories is the number of times the portabe extinguisher just knocked the fire down and gained time for the fire dept to get there. So 1st priority is still to get everyone safe before attempting to put out the fire.
I emptied 3 21/2 lb and 2 10lb extinguishers on a vehicle engine compartment fire and kept it from spreading to other vehicles until a small fire truck came. It was still burning and growing when they arrived.
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41748 would be somewhere between 1923 and 1935 according to AIA
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A11742 or 8 should be 1899
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Can only get a date range on Peter Wright anvils. This one was made between 1885 and 1910 according to AIA
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We have Hysol structural adhesives at work used for bonding aluminum aircraft sheetmetal structures together that replace riveting them, really strong stuff. Takes heat and patience to try and break the bond or it just tears the sheetmetal.
Usually 24 hr cure and 7 days full strength. However they have a 1 year shelf life and run anywhere from $150 to $400 per quart!
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As Charles said while cast iron is not ideal it is still usable you just need to be aware of the inherent weaknesses of a cast iron. Only work hot metal, don't get too crazy with a sledge hammer on it, especially if your working out on the heel or tip of the horn.
Since you got it cheap you can try it out, learn on it and if you miss a blow or two with the hammer no harm! Have Fun!!
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Looks to be cast iron which means there has been many companies making these over the years with no identifying marks.
They often make them to appear to have a plate on top with the casting mold. A rebound test will tell alot if you want to know.
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Use it as is and make a portable hole as said before. Will be way less expensive and no risk of damaging the anvil.
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Sorry I didn't clarify earlier that I'm pretty sure Hay Budden produced this under the Hercules name.
That serial number would be from 1903. At that time Hay Budden anvils were a 3 piece design, the base which went about halfway up the base, the upper body and the faceplate. Around 1908 they went to a 2 piece design with no face plate. The 22 is an inspection mark. (Richard Postman and his fine book deserves credit for this knowledge)
If it still rings when struck indicates that the remaining face plate and the rest of the anvil is structurally sound.
Unless you are a competent welder or know one that will donate their time it probably will be too expensive to pay for the correct repair to be done. I don't know where you are but I have read about there being anvil repair clinics hosted by the local blacksmith groups.
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The face of earlier Hay Budden anvils was a seperate piece of alloy steel that was forge welded on. Sometimes the forge weld failed over time and that area of the face would crack and fall off as it appears has happened to that anvil.
Look for a serial number on the bottom edge under the horn. We can provide a date and know the anvils construction method.
Did you test with a bearing on the left over raised part? When you say it rebounded well did you eyeball it? Sometimes people tend to throw the bearing at the surface which results in a false reading. If you think you need an accurate reading get a ruler and drop the bearing from 10 inches and see how hight the first bounce is. 9" bounce would be 90%, 5" would be 50%.
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Looks like a good candidate for the Gunther repair if it can be obtained for cheap enough. The area where the face used to be appears to be fairly flat and the edges have not been pounded away.
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It looks to be forged steel by the seperation line on the counterweight in the last image. I believe most forged steel cranks are 4340 steel, tough but not particularly hard.
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The chipping no problem, the crack between the chips problem. I couldnt see the crack on my phones screen!
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This is widespread in all trades and industries, people want American made, quality products at 3rd world wages and mass produced at the minimum quality necessary.
An other ID please
in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
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Trenton anvil. 140lb made in 1903. Appears to be in good condition!