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Hello

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I hope there are some kind folks out there that can help advise me on a refinishing project. I AM NOT the artisan, but I have a beautiful hand forged bed. Please excuse me for not knowing the difference between iron or steel? Maybe they are the same? Anyhow I will post picts of my bed project and then picts of the finish I need to restore. My questions revolve around removing all the rust that has "broken" through in areas of wear (lots of moving in my past, as well as 3 kids used bed as jungle gym!).

I am also wondering.. is this all the same material? it kind of looks like some of it is still raw material (see joints) and some might have been colored with a paint? or a gel?

comments on that are welcome..

few questions to start with:

1) is this a sprayed on finish or a chemical reaction (gel) finish?

2) how would you "strip" the existing finish so that I can cover the rust that has broken through and give it a nice even new color and protective top coat.

3) if this is "spray paint" any ideas on what too use to match the color and depth of color?

4) if this is a chemical reaction process, how do I recreate that? 

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Welcome aboard, glad to have you. If you'll put your general location in the header you'll have a better chance of hands on help from members living within visiting distance.

Your link is broken so there's no chance we can evaluate your problem let alone render meaningful suggestions. 

You can attach pics from your computer or cut and paste. There is a button below the text pane, just follow the directions.

Frosty The Lucky.

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Welcome aboard from 7500' in SE Wyoming.  Glad to have you.

Like Frosty says, we can't really answer your questions without photos.  However, rust is a chemical reaction (oxidation) where the iron atoms have combined with oxygen to form an iron oxide.  Protective coatings on iron (actual wrought iron has not been used much for over a century) or steel for a physical barrier to keep the iron from the oxygen in air or water.  So, if the barrier is broken, e.g., a chip or scratch in paint, the exposed metal will form a rust spot.

There are lots of finishes out there.  Blacksmiths often use BLO (boiled linseed oil) which is a drying oil which will form a protective barrier as it dries.  It darkens the natural dark gray oxide finish on forged steel and is reasonably durable.  For certain applications, and I suspect that your bedstead is one of them, spray paint will be the best option.  Often, light rusting does not have to be removed and can just be sprayed over with something like Rustoleum brand paint which is designed to go on lightly rusted surfaces.  You will need to remove rust if it is so thick to be "crusty" and visibly pitting the metal.

Also, if you put your general location in your profile our answers will be better.  If you are on a salt water houseboat our answers may be different than if you are in the desert of Arizona.

"By hammer and hand all arts do stand."

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HI thanks for the comments.. I can see the photos (they are just in the body of the posting, no need to click the link? can you see them now? if not I will attach in a reply, since there seems to be no way to edit my original post

Also I got a message from the moderator saying this was in the wrong topic, can someone tell me where I should post this? thanks

 

Mod edit:  https://www.iforgeiron.com/forum/262-finishes-for-metal/

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I can see them now, thank you. Do you have a picture of the break? It might be wrought iron (the metal) or mild steel. There are arc welds visible and they aren't repairs. 

It has forged elements no doubt but shouldn't be too difficult to repair. If necessary to arc weld the break and grind modern welding is much more versatile and adaptable. A more "traditional" repair might be possible, we'll need a look at the break to tell. A "traditional" repair might be more visible. 

Lots of possibilities ad a lot depends on how you want it done.

Frosty The Lucky.

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okay so like I said Newbie here, as in I only own this item I didn't make it or profess any knowledge of how it was made!

Let me know what info or photos I can give you to help you determine what finish might be on here, how I can prep/sand the whole item down and what I can finish it with to give it a look similar to the original finish.

to me it seems like the original finish is not paint, but rather a natural coloring? is this possible? the reason I say this is some areas look the look like raw steel and are the same color as the solid tubes which form the bed posts...

thanks!

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Yes, it looks like bare steel, possibly with some sort of clear finish on it.  If you try scaping it and get a bit of soft material to scrape off it is clear coated somehow.  This could be a commercial product or it could be boiled linseed oil.  If you want to keep the natiural finish I would take off any rust by lightly using a wire wheel on a drill, dremel, or other tool.  Don't be real agressive, just enough to take the rust away.  Then I would apply linseed oil, either straight from the can or mixed 50-50 with turpentine.  The terp makes it dry faster and smells better.

"By hammer and hand all arts do stand."

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Sorry I misunderstood and was off on a whole different trail. My bad, I do that sort of thing all the time. 

Is there still rust on it? If so a pic of that might help. The area it changes from good finish to damaged will tell us more too. Any idea how old the bed is? 

I think George has the right of it but the more we know the better the chance we'll be able to help.

Frosty The Lucky.

 

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12 hours ago, teamprine said:

Also I got a message from the moderator saying this was in the wrong topic, can someone tell me where I should post this? thanks

according to the logs, you had posted this in general smithing, it was moved to finishes

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