awholelota Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Hi, all. I started blacksmithing just over a year ago using a railroad track and a homemade anvil. Just picked up my first real anvil on Friday and was hoping that someone could identify it for me. It's 80lb and the mark looks like an arm and hammer but not exactly the same as an Arm & Hammer trademark. I bought the anvil and the 68lb railroad track for $80 so I'm pretty sure I got a great deal no matter what brand it is. Thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Any chance of wire brushing the side a bit, and getting a better closeup picture? Would love to see closer pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Black Frog said: Any chance of wire brushing the side a bit, and getting a better closeup picture? Would love to see closer pictures. that is after some wire brushing... haha. I could upload the full-size picture if you want. it's fairly large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yes, better resolution might help! Also a shot of the underside of the anvil, and look for a serial number on the front foot under the horn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 here are the full sized pictures. I'll take a picture of the underside when i get home from work. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Any serial number on the front foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 is the underside of the heel undulating? American weight stamp, Arm and Hammer logo; Possible stamped for a hardware re-seller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 The A&H is there for reference comparison, not his anvil in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Wish that had been stated in original post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, Black Frog said: The A&H is there for reference comparison, not his anvil in question. actually, all of those pictures are of my anvil. my stamp has a much shorter almost non-existent bicep as compared to an Arm & Hammer stamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Which arm and hammer stamp? They changed a bit over time IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: Which arm and hammer stamp? They changed a bit over time IIRC. This is the stamp that I'm most familiar with. I've also seen an arm and hammer on some Vulcan anvils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Vulcan Anvils it's cast proud of the surface not stamped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 2 hours ago, awholelota said: actually, all of those pictures are of my anvil. my stamp has a much shorter almost non-existent bicep as compared to an Arm & Hammer stamp. You mean the A&H stamp is on one side, and the Imperial is on the other side? They looked like two completely different surfaces of anvils, one cleaner, and one more rusty! My mistake. There were several different A&H logos used over their years. Yours is an early version of the stamp. Look for the serial number on the front foot, It will most likely be under the 13,000 serial number range. The other examples you showed are later style A&H logo stamps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 27 minutes ago, Black Frog said: You mean the A&H stamp is on one side, and the Imperial is on the other side? They looked like two completely different surfaces of anvils, one cleaner, and one more rusty! My mistake. There were several different A&H logos used over their years. Yours is an early version of the stamp. Look for the serial number on the front foot, It will most likely be under the 13,000 serial number range. The other examples you showed are later style A&H logo stamps . they do look completely different. might have been just the lighting or one side might have gotten the wire wheel a little longer than the other. I'll look under the anvil tonight. Thank you for all of your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 12 hours ago, Black Frog said: You mean the A&H stamp is on one side, and the Imperial is on the other side? They looked like two completely different surfaces of anvils, one cleaner, and one more rusty! My mistake. There were several different A&H logos used over their years. Yours is an early version of the stamp. Look for the serial number on the front foot, It will most likely be under the 13,000 serial number range. The other examples you showed are later style A&H logo stamps . just checked. there aren't any other identifiable markings on my anvil. is it safe to assume that it's an Arm & Hammer and that sub $1/lb was a great deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 How's the ring? Well sub US$1/# would be considered good even if in much worse shape. How did you run across it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awholelota Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 12 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: How's the ring? Well sub US$1/# would be considered good even if in much worse shape. How did you run across it? Barely any ring to it. Rebound seems okay, but I can't really tell since I'm just starting out. I have a craigslist alert set and this one just happened to be posted at 3am. I checked my alerts at 6am when I got to the office notifying me of a ranch sale. The guy had literal tons of stuff for sale and this little guy just happened to be listed.The ad said the ranch sale started at 8am so I decided to take my lunch break an hour after getting into work so I could be there right when he opened. Good thing too because a few people drove up right after I paid for the anvil and track wanting to purchase it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfudd Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 On small anvils the ring maybe faint depending on what the material is its sitting on. If you put it on something that holds it in the air, like a couple of drill bits you can then judge the ring. It looks like a great anvil and A&H's are quite in demand by Smith's and collectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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