Some Guy on the Internet Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wow! That is beautiful. Thanks for posting and giving us something to aspire to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron J. Cergol Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 Admanfrd-I used 3/8" diameter 4140. Forged it to an octagonal cross section, and tapered the struck end. For planishing tools and more specialty shaped tools I would forge them down to shape and then file/grind, but these chisels I just ground the edges on. Heat treat; brought the business end to non magnetic and threw it in oil. Left the struck end as normalized. I tempered with a small propane torch, heating about half an inch down the shaft from the business end. Watch the colors run until I hit a dark straw. I would usually temper something like this to a bronze, but that proved to be too soft and I needed to re heat treat. Mitch; I have a professionally done video in the works of the forging of a claw hammer. Should be complete in a few weeks. Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admanfrd Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Ever thought about nitriding it as well? I have heard that you can with 4140. also, do you anneal the piece you are working on when you carve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntfxr Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Did you by chance use a belt grinder to get the surfaces ready before the chisel work? I believe I'd hang that beauty on the wall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron J. Cergol Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Nitiriding, is that similar to case hardening? I heat treated the hammer after doing the chisel and filework as it was 1045. dntfxr; yes, I anneal before any of this begins. after annealing, I pickle in vinegar, or heavily wire wheel the scale off (It KILLS files). Then I go to the belt grinder and prepare the surfaces. I rough it out at 60G and then do a pass of 120 over that. This gets the surface good and even, making it much easier to file on. Another note, after chiseling, and even center punching, the metal will "pucker up" around your design. Be sure to file this smooth after. Otherwise it leaves a somewhat sharp burr and looks unfinished. btw-I'm working on another one of these at the moment, a smaller one though, would it be worthwhile to take some progress pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy on the Internet Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Progress pics? I would absolutely love to see them! Have you ever thought about doing some wire inlay? A little silver against the black and bronze color would really pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron J. Cergol Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 oh yes, I'm currently working on one for myself (meaning it might get finished this millennium) It has file work, and will be browned with silver inlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy on the Internet Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 That will look very sharp. I just saw an axe with some silver inlay. The silver kind of blended in with the steel. Browning sounds like a great way to make it stand out. Can't wait to see pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admanfrd Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Nitriding is basically surface hardening on steroids. NH4 fumes put hydrogen onto the molybdenum and this creates a SUPER HARD casing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Nitriding is basically surface hardening on steroids. NH4 fumes put hydrogen onto the molybdenum and this creates a SUPER HARD casing. Actually that would ruin the steel, the problem is called hydrogen embrittlement. and why do you think moly is needed in the alloy for nitriding to work? It works on many metals. Nitriding is a process that puts nitrogen into the surface to create case hardening, which is only a surface treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulKrzysz Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Aaron could you please enable the Macro function on your camera and take those photos again? It looks like you camera was set to lake distance shots so it is difficult to see the profiles on those chisels. Thank you, the hammer looks great. I want to do this on my next rounding hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admanfrd Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I read a heat treatment book section on Nitriding and it said very few select alloys such as the 41xx series can do it. It said that it is a process of creating a file hard case on the metal. How this ruin it? And excuse me, I meant to say that it puts NITROGEN on the surface, not hydrogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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