78sharpshooter Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I picked up a rivet forge with a fairly small champion hand crank blower (the 400 dwarfs this one and it has no model info on the casting). The gearcase in parallel to the fan blade and I was able to disassemble it except I can't get the idler gear & shaft out. There is no bolt holding the gear on the shaft but it looks like the castings on the housing have some pressed in washers or something on either side of the shaft. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I think if its working fine, I would leave it as is, you may do more harm than good by trying to refurbish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvmikeray Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Best thing to do is leave it alone if it turns. The shaft rides in a bushing and has to be pressed out and may have a pin holding it in. If you do not now what your doing or have a press, you will bust the case. Flush out the case , you wont paint that part anyway. Then just re assemble it. http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/18101-champion-lancaster-40-forge-blower-restoration/ That thread may help you some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The old saying "If ain't broke don't fix it" can be translated to " If ain't broke don't brake it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Is it the model 140?????? They are real nice, turn really easily and from what I recall, only one set of ball bearings, if any. I washed mine out with a pressure washer and then soaked in diesel fuel and washed it again. Super sano now and it works well. I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78sharpshooter Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yes, that is the exact one. I took the advice and left the idler alone, scrubbed it and rinsed with kerosene many times, oiled it and put it back together and it turns smoothly but does make some noise from the output shaft having a little too much radial play in it. It moves quite a bit of air for a smaller blower. I am not sure I will keep it though because I don't like the forge itself and like my aluminum champion blower better. What is a fair price for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I use mine quite a bit for some smaller projects. It works just as well as the big old 400. The 140 turns easier too and I like that it isn't full of ball bearings that whine and grind due to rust pitted balls and races........... You can adjust/remove said shaft play. There is a set screw and you can make it so tight you can't turn it. The 140 is known as the Eureka aka model 140 and the forge you have is the model 145. I gave $175 for mine. It took a good cleaning and I made a new (false) bottom for it and it works super well. It will totally destroy a 3/4 inch steel rod in short order if you spin that handle too much. I also made a tool rack/hanger which comes in real handy to hang the fire tools onto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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