otisdog Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 This is a continuation of my thread "I need some Hay Budden dimensions" from a month ago. So I have an anvil that looks a lot like a Hay Budden. After pulling some dimensions and comparing them to the 1914/15 HB catalogue that Southshoresmith posted, it's difficult to pinpoint a weight for the anvil. It has the face dimensions of a 400 pounder, the horn length of a 450 pounder, and a hardy hole size of a 500 pounder. But here's the kicker-it's got a face plate. The faceplate looks to be part of the original construction, not added later as part of a repair. I postulated on the other thread that the anvil might have been made by the Southern Pacific Railroad, and that was before I had seen it. I wouldn't be surprised if they did make this anvil, using another as a pattern. Enclosed are some pictures. a. My Baby b. with a 200 pound HB on top of it c. with a 400 pound fisher on a stand 12" behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisdog Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 And here's the pictures of the face plate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisdog Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Some more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Miller Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Early hay buddens had face plates as did all major makes of anvils made at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 The weight should be stamped on the side in pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisdog Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 The weight should be stamped on the side in pounds No markings of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old N Rusty Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Nice Anvil Stew.it Is shaped just like mine, I dont see any markings on my anvil either, it is smaller than your beautiful big one, but I like it. What is that white stuff all over your driveway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Are there handling holes in waist and/or base? Sometimes on HB's, there is a fairly large, single number stamped under the horn on the waist next to the handling hole. http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmith Schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisdog Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Are there handling holes in waist and/or base? Sometimes on HB's, there is a fairly large, single number stamped under the horn on the waist next to the handling hole. http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmith Schools No,there are no handling holes. It does have the concave hourglass shape under the base. In profile, it's a dead ringer for anvilcustoms 700 pounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Any signs of having a serial number on the front foot? What side it's on can help indicate make---even if you can't read it! Also the hourglass base concavity is quite indicative! Is it a thin walled or a thick walled one? I have an old HB (well marked) with face and a thin almost worn off hourglass concavity indicating it was an early model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisdog Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Any signs of having a serial number on the front foot? What side it's on can help indicate make---even if you can't read it! Also the hourglass base concavity is quite indicative! Is it a thin walled or a thick walled one? I have an old HB (well marked) with face and a thin almost worn off hourglass concavity indicating it was an early model. No Indications of a serial number, but it sat in a factory base (I think) in the snow through about 50 winters, so there is about 1/8" corroded off of the feet where the number would be. The hourglass is about 1 1/4" concave, with the hourglass begining about 1 1/4" in from the outside edge of the foot. There are some voids in the foot. I'll try to get a picture when I get home tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisdog Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 So Stewart, does your anvil have the "Hay Budden" stamp on the side? Does it have handling holes? Do you think that it's a HB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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