Francis Trez Cole Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 This weekend I made a couple 3 pound hammers one will go to a raffle for FABA confrence the other is for my shop. They are made out of 1095. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside forge Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Nice! When most people make hammers they use 4140. Tell me how the 1095 works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstein Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Nice looking tools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Brian Brazeal uses 1095 for his hammers. The japaneese hammer I posted be for was from the same stock and it has held up well Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 How did the hardening and tempering go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 How did the hardening and tempering go? Frank it went real well I followed brians instructions it was easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 oh, that is strange... Brian said that he (usually, when he had it ; which he usually does) used 1045 or 4140 ( while preferring the 1045 because it yields more to the hammer ). I know that at least for the past couple of years... Brian has been using 1045 and 4140. So i am puzzled. Any way... very nice hammers! alec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 oh, that is strange... Brian said that he (usually, when he had it ; which he usually does) used 1045 or 4140 ( while preferring the 1045 because it yields more to the hammer ). I know that at least for the past couple of years... Brian has been using 1045 and 4140. So i am puzzled. Any way... very nice hammers! alec Alex 1045 is a steel that can be water hardened I like 1095 or 4140 they are oil hardened yes it is a harder metal but works well for me I have a power hammer so you get a little more force if you need it both of these were forged by hand. The 1095 was a drop at my metal supplier. The piece was long enough to get three hammers out of it and if you do not have to pay prime price. There is a lot about metals and there properties next you will have to study some metallurgy it is a vast subject I know some but I know where to look up and research what I am working with, Thanks for your comments and I hope this helps with the decision I made in the selection of metal that I chose. I learned a lot from Brian when he came to my shop to do a demo he is a great teacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason @ MacTalis Ironworks Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 1095 is just a tad higher carbon than most would want for a hammer, but so long as it is properly heat treated, it will work just fine. The biggest pain in working it is going to be that it is harder at heat than 1045, but if you have a power hammer to work it, that is a minor problem. I'd suggest oil quenching it, to reduce initial hardness, and tempering it like you would 1045, and you should end up with roughly the same hardness as water quenched 1045. Might even be hard enough normalized, though I kinda doubt it, as you'd end up with more iron carbides than you would probably want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 1095 is just a tad higher carbon than most would want for a hammer, but so long as it is properly heat treated, it will work just fine. The biggest pain in working it is going to be that it is harder at heat than 1045, but if you have a power hammer to work it, that is a minor problem. I'd suggest oil quenching it, to reduce initial hardness, and tempering it like you would 1045, and you should end up with roughly the same hardness as water quenched 1045. Might even be hard enough normalized, though I kinda doubt it, as you'd end up with more iron carbides than you would probably want. I normalized it twice and it worked just fine under the hand hammer. I also oil quenched it they work real nice one is going to a raffle for FABA to help raise money for the chapter at the confrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstermetal Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 They look great Francis, 1095 is like butter under that Champion? Or did you forge these all by hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 They look great Francis, 1095 is like butter under that Champion? Or did you forge these all by hand? By hand I got ambitious took about an hour for each to punch drift and hammer out. used a 4 pound hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgivun Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I'm sure I'm just not looking in the right area, But at the moment I'm really interested in making my own tools for some reason. I know material wise It's probably not any cheaper than just buying one. My primary concerns at the moment are more tongs (I've found several instructions, tutorials etc, and worst case scenario, they can just be welded) and then I'd really like to make a nice little hammer.. maybe 2 - 2 1/2lbs or so. But I haven't been able to find a really detailed set of instructions about hammer making. I also know that if I'm still working on forging tongs and such, making my own hammer probably shouldn't be high on my list. Lots more practice first. But someone once told me you learn faster if you enjoy what you're doing. So I'm going with that method Thanks for the assistance guys, and Francis, those hammers look awesome to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 I'm sure I'm just not looking in the right area, But at the moment I'm really interested in making my own tools for some reason. I know material wise It's probably not any cheaper than just buying one. My primary concerns at the moment are more tongs (I've found several instructions, tutorials etc, and worst case scenario, they can just be welded) and then I'd really like to make a nice little hammer.. maybe 2 - 2 1/2lbs or so. But I haven't been able to find a really detailed set of instructions about hammer making. I also know that if I'm still working on forging tongs and such, making my own hammer probably shouldn't be high on my list. Lots more practice first. But someone once told me you learn faster if you enjoy what you're doing. So I'm going with that method Thanks for the assistance guys, and Francis, those hammers look awesome to me. Brian Brazeal is in Mississippi not to far from Alabama he teaches classes on tong making and hammer making you will not find a finer teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Unforgivun, you are just a stone's throw from Tannehill State Park, where the Alabama Forge Council holds their state meetings. You should join them ASAP, not just for the educational opportunities, but for the tailgating and personal interactions. www.alaforge.org Batson's Bladesmith meet in the spring is a world class event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 I have had some more time in the shop This 4 pound hammer is made of 4130 2 1/4" round stock, got the metal for 90 cents a pound punched it by hand and during the drifting rounded one face with a die I made for my power hammer, I also flattened out the sides on the power hammer. Unforgiven Mark Aspery has 2 books and there is a great hammer making tutorial in them a very good read he also has videos on you tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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