elfshadow14 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hey I read about PawPaw and it freaked me out.Does anyone know a good steel seller that list whats in it and sells just pure carbon still no zinc and other bad stuff on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnsrgn Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 What got PPW was trying to burn the applied galvanized coating from some pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan DuBoff Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Jr., (or other) Was this what actually took his life, by inhaling the fumes, got sick, and that was it? If so, that's really scary...that's a real danger, and smith's need to know what steel they're using, most certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 According to research on the internet, there are no components of steel that will leach out, burn out, gas off, or any other term I could think of at the time that would cause a health problem from normal blacksmith use. Applied coatings, such as paint, galvanizing, powder coatings, various chemicals, etc, are a very different matter and care should be taken when removing or applying these coatings. Using 4340 steel as an example (Element Weight % C 0.38-0.43 Mn 0.60-0.80 P 0.035 (max) S 0.04 (max) Si 0.15-0.30 Cr 0.70-0.90 Ni 1.65-2.00 Mo 0.20-0.30 ); the chromium, molydenum, nickel, etc, will not "come out of" the steel and therefore do not pose a health hazard as a component of the steel. Commercial steel suppliers can provide uncoated steel of various grades so one does not have to worry about using steel itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfshadow14 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 Thanks I feel better now I didn't want to start smithing get sick.I'll just stay clear of zinc and other coatings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Theer is certainly a concern when a lot of things are heated, Like those mentioned here. We are all exposed to chemicals that may be toxic. Some are real bad guys and let you know right away that you got a dose. Many folks use muriatic acid for etching damascus knives or cleaning scale..get a whiff of it and you react right away. Carbon monoxide is another one you may not realize it but it is deadly and silent,,,does not have a smell. You may notice headaches after exposure. Likely the most commonin gases from smoking some folks smoke for decades and do not see side effects. When Jim Wilson (Paw Paw) heated the galvanized he got the text book signs of exposure. In addition he had been along term smoker and had lung disease as a result. He was a friend and a great guy I miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Zinc thread on IForgeIron There is a discussion on this thread on zinc. You may wish to review it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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