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GandalftheGold

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  1. Doesn't change the fact that it is true.
  2. I had my libraries mixed up. My college library was the one that was only connected to two or three, it was an inter college library service. The colleges had pretty much everything the towns had so most sharing was between the three schools. I asked and the town library is connected to scores of other libraries including a few schools.
  3. That sounds sick. The issue I have with forums is I find really good information, then I forget to bookmark the page and I can never find it again. I also just like books. The library did have the art of blacksmithing, which I see what you were talking about, but it is still quite interesting. I was also able to request something called practical blacksmithing and metal working, which seemed useful. I did purchase a copy of the back yard blacksmith because I have never seen a hardcover book sell for less than the paperback version. I always need more hardcovers on my shelf.
  4. My library only has two or three that it ILLs with, it is probably more but most of the libraries around here have pretty identical selections, so I am not sure how many they will have. I think it may be that ILL is a bit hard to place as an acronym, it took me a few minutes to figure out what you meant by that. I did a catalog search and found some but most are from other libraries and a little surprisingly a lot were checked out already. Ill swing by after work to figuratively and literally check them out.
  5. I don't have a lot of faith in my public library, they have let me down so many times, but I'll give it a shot. Was just wondering as it seems everyone has what they believe to be the perfect book.
  6. I have looked through the forums and have seen many many recommendations for books to read on the subject of general blacksmithing. I saw a lot of suggestions and it was really hard for me to try to narrow it down to just a couple. I also did a little bit of research outside of this forum. I think I settled on these three books, The art of Blacksmithing by Alex W Bealer, the Back Yard Blacksmith by Lorielei Sims, and The Complete Modern Blacksmith by Alexander Weygers. I was also contemplating Blacksmithing Primer: A Course in Basic and Intermediate Blacksmithing by Randy McDaniel, but I wasnt too sure on that one, it seems like the other books would cover the info in it but it seems like a really nice book, haven't made up my mind on that one. If anyone has any to add or some to remove due to redundancy I would love the suggestions, otherwise these are the three I will probably get for the time being. From what I saw in the descriptions they all seem to talk about the same general stuff, but focus on very different areas. Any help would be appreciated. If that knife making book is still for sail on here I will probably get that a little down the road when I have built up a little more experience.
  7. unintentionally yeah. Somehow I quoted you accidentally without actually quoting you. I blame gremlins.
  8. I have no idea why that posted. I went to write something, the page glitched, and I aparently posted an empty quote box that i cant delete. Oops
  9. Totally understandable. I have bright blonde shoulder length hair and subsequently I get confused for a woman all the time, clothing stores can be a hassle. The how to post is greatly appreciated whenever it is you are able to get around to it. Thanks
  10. I mean I get called sweetie, cutie, hun, and mam all the time, they're just words. I didn't think it would be an issue. My b
  11. It's a phrase I say to everyone. My apologies if it offends, force of habit.
  12. So I took what you said about trying cold working to get the hang of it and I got these. The steel guys were closed but I had some old roasting pans sitting in the basement so I thought Id give it a shot. The hammer was what I rounded off to do this, I think I should probably round it off a little more, it is a broken body hammer I think. I still dinged it up but I think the dings are more rounded so less of a problem, I also think I did a far better job this time of keeping the dings towards the edge instead of the middle. I still need to work on the rippling but I at least think this is a step in the right direction. The small one is so thin if you cough while holding it it will bend, But I think the larger one is just thick enough to hold its shape.
  13. I believe that is what I watched to get the idea in the first place.
  14. I will have to try one of those as well. And the short story is I messed up, badly. I failed miserably at turning up the sides. I made the mistake of not properly securing the pipe I was using and not having good enough score marks. The plate kept bouncing all over the place and I rarely had the ring of the pipe lined up with where I wanted the inside ring of the pan to be. I also made the mistake of not wearing the proper gloves so every time I would strike the hammer I singed my right hand and forearm. My heating method was also way off, I tried to get it evenly heated but I obviously did not. here were ripples and waves all over what was supposed to be the flat surface of the center. While making the sides I eventually got tired of burning my arm from proximity, so I ended up clamping the pipe horizontally and folding the sides over that way, which worked surprisingly well in contrast to my Ill prepared attempt of raising the sides. I then realized how disastrously rippled the center was and tried to fix it by planting the pipe in the ground and lightly tapping from the back side. I hit it way to hard and convexed the thing. When I tried to fix it I made it concave. It was a long cycle, all the while catching the handle on the rim and denting the inside. Then my air supply made a terrifying cough and died. So it was a learning experience I will bring to Sunday when I try this again.
  15. Fair points. Although I was referencing my grandfather who is in his 70s and is the one who wipes raw meat everywhere for some weird reason. Fair points indeed. Although I have eaten enough dirt you'd think I'd have had an issue by now. I know it doesn't work that way, an attempt at a joke I guess. I cant even begin to list all the cracked and scratched things I eat off of every day, so I guess i should fix that. I already knew that the pan was basically going to be trash, and now that it is "riveted" it is confirmed. I didn't expect attempt 1 to be anything remotely usable. I learned how not to make a pan yesterday and how not to rivet one today. I would put up a picture, but I really don't want to display to the world how bad the rivets came out.
  16. I am pretty thorough with cleaning. I also almost always let it on heat sit to scorch anything off of it anyway. I can guarantee I have cooked on way worse and groaty things than that. but I will take the concern under advisement. I wouldn't say it particularly worries me though. I come from a line of people who while cooking can wipe their raw meat covered hands all over their clothes while cooking, not wash either hands or cloths, then never get sick or have repercussions from it what so ever.
  17. with the vac broken I have no way to punch it sadly. But I am trying all this again on Sunday so we shall see how it goes. I figured punching would be fine if not better, I just hadn't seen anyone do it that way. Atleast the process seems to be pretty much the same. Make three holes, rivet it, make a fourth, then rivet it. And like I said I was planning on getting a hammer for this but couldn't and was too antsy to wait for a week. The dings give it character as a fire pan, in my opinion.
  18. When you punch the pan holes do you do one rivet first? I know with drilling it was suggested to do both handle holes, then one pan hole, rivet it, then drill the other pan hole and rivet it. I guess act of riveting it will slightly miss align the pan holes if you drill them both at the same time.
  19. I was going to punch them but I was told punching too commonly miss aligns the holes when you go to rivet. That is probably wrong but that is what I was told by people who seemed to know what they were talking about, not that I would really know.
  20. yeah that had been the plan. I was supposed to go to the flea market on last sunday to do exactly what you just said, but the heavens decided to dump everything they had so it was closed. I was too impatient to wait the extra week. Atleast I have some experience to bring to the table when I try again with the proper hammer. The hammer head I was using also wasn't large enough to hit without catching the rim on the handle or my fingers so I had to come down at a rather steep angle. I'm going to the market this weekend barring downpours.
  21. So this was as far as I got. My 20 year old shop vac died a rather horrible death yesterday so this was as far as I could get with it. Its a bit not circular, and there is no defined edge between the rim and base, but It looks ish like what it is supposed to be. I killed my drill bit so I need to get a few more to drill and rivet it together. May not be kitchen worthy but it is definitely campsite worthy. I am going to make some sort of clip on handle extender for fire use, and a long, long spatula. I have lost my arm hair too many times cooking over the fire. I had just started to get the hang of it when the vac died, so I am going to keep this one the way it is, and probably pick up another sheet tomorrow at some point and try another.
  22. Those are awesome punches. I do intend soon to make a couple stamps. I do want some wire inlay chisels. Although I wouldn't say I would be wasting my time making round into flat. I need to work on precision, patience, and even hammering which I cant think of a better way with the materials I currently have. It is also just something I feel that I need to attempt, mostly so I understand how bad of an idea it is so I never do it again. I'll use rebar though for that particular project, I know it will be awful, but just to say it was once rebar. It'll be a nice shop hanger. I do have a bunch of flea market pry bars and large files, thanks. No work today so once I finish painting I have like six things to go make.
  23. Think I can use the star drills for anything, aside from boring holes in rock? I ask as they are prevalent, cheap, and in varying sizes. I have a bunch lying around. Im thinking they could be nice knives. Hoewever, if it is tool steel i don't know if it can do anything longer than a knife without shattering, such as a foot, foot and a half chopper. This is down the road, I have a skillet and oodels of s hooks to make first.
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