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Bob McRee

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  1. I have gotten a good smile from this exchange! Someone once said, "If we always do what we've always done, we'll always have what we've always had?" Living in China has taught me some valuable lessons. Americans, in the past, have been movers and shakers and constantly searching for innovation. It is very true that Chinese excel in "borrowing" ideas and concepts. The old grandmother in a village here still goes to the well every day and carries water home in two buckets hanging from a bamboo pole across her shoulders as her grandmother and great grandmother had done before her. Long ago in th
  2. Is there an anvil or company in Italy named Acciaio? I know these are made for the European market by the Chinese company. There is a common practice of Chinese unfinished goods being imported into some countries and then resold as "made in ______." For some countries this is 100% lawful. China is the world's largest producer of violins. Many are sold "in the white" or unfinished to European nations and labeled and sold as products of that country. China can produce high quality products but two factors come into play. One, buyers often order poor quality. Second, finding a manufacturer w
  3. Thanks for all the good info and help from people in the know on FIshers! Here is the my new thread on my Chinese cast steel anvil that arrived today.
  4. In another post I had mentioned that I had ordered a new Chinese cast steel anvil from the foundry in northern China. I have been living in south China, Guangdong Province, for over five years. Feeling the urge to get back into knife making and blacksmithing I began to search for a real anvil in China. My contact with the factory resulted in this 100KG/220LB hunk-o-steel that showed up today. It is cast from C45 steel and is an Italian pattern. In fact the "Acciaio" cast into the side means "steel" in Italian, according to google translate. I did not have much time to spend with it today but h
  5. I think i will start a new topic on the new anvil. Have been in communication with the factory and it is being shipped to me tomorrow. Edit: I received some photos today after heat treating and they will keep it three days to watch for any problems. So, arrive in a week or so.
  6. I am in Dongguan City, about half way between Guangzhou and Hong Kong. I am the director of International Studies in a private high school. We have a college prep program and send most of our program's graduates to US universities. I grew up on a Mississippi Delta cotton farm in Sunflower county and lived 12 years in the Arkansas and Missouri Ozarks then in the Hill Country of Texas. This ain't Kansas for sure!
  7. Thanks Pulse, I just typed a long response but decided not to post. I 100% agree with both points of your post. The economic situation is what it is and lets talk anvils. I think rediscovering the proper methods of accomplishing what Fisher did would take a large amount of time and money in experimenting and playing around to get it right. Even if you get the weld to hold, I think the questions is, for how long? Once again we are back to the issue of quality and consumer confidence. If an American company were to attempt this, I think anvil buyers would take a wait and see approach. Howe
  8. My advice to the factory owner was to forget the cast iron/steel face anvil. There is too much prejudice toward Chinese cast iron anvils to enter the market with that item. My question was more curiosity than anything. I look forward to giving my opinion on the anvil!!! I live in a private school here and my shop is about 25 minutes away. I have not yet built my stand. Waiting for the anvil to do that. I have lived here long enough to know that whatever dimensions they give on a website or literature will probably be wrong. As to the steel vs iron issue. Cast iron is much cheaper than the
  9. Nowhere in my posts or in my mind did i consider making anvils allude to using the Fisher name. I think some of you jumped a little too quick on that. I was asking about the process Fisher used. Someone pointed out earlier that the patents on the process have expired long ago. The process now can be copied. Smith and Wesson held the patent on the bored through chambers in a revolving cylinder. Colt had to wait until the patent expired to produce a cartridge revolver.
  10. Yes, I am in China and here is the story. (I was told that I can be verbose...Yeah, cracked the dictionary on that one.) I have been working here for a few years and getting bored with the unavailability of my hobbies from the USA. An old, locally know blacksmith in Berryville, Arkansas, Ike Doss, gave me my start in blacksmithing. Work and family required more time and I eventually sold all my big tools and equipment. Recently, I got the knife making bug again and started my search here for the best anvil I could find in China. There is a tremendous variety of steel available locally and stee
  11. Thanks for the information and help. I also just found this earlier patent from 1847. Does anyone know the grade of cast iron Fisher used?
  12. I know that Fisher-Norris had patented the process by which the steel plate was welded to the cast iron body during the casting process. Does anyone have any details on the techniques they used?
  13. Well, I figure that $8 gas in one fellows station and $4 at most of the others is a sure sign that the USA still has some freedoms where the seller can set his price and the buyer can choose whether he wants to do business at $4 or $8. But I don't think anyone is making us do business with the $8 fellow. I really thought that among the blacksmith types there would be more independent spirit and live and let live attitude. Are we going to legislate that he can't own more anvils than members of his household? Anvil police? Are you goin' to tell someone they can't have more than one baby? I figur
  14. I'll bet that all the folks selling new anvils and making new anvils are happy to see this collection. Just depends on which side of the fence you happen to be standing on. Also, it was stated that he has many for sale. Why not go out there with a trailer and buy the ones for sale and have a traveling anvil shop back to the east or west coast? Let all these guys here who want to see them in circulation know about your big sale and see if they will shake the dust out of their wallets to back their principles. Its his money. He is not hoarding food in a famine or vaccine during an epidemic.
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