March 6, 201016 yr Whassat, blacksmith math? $1.00 + $100.00 = $200.00? This may explain my accounting irregularities over the years. Grant what are the functional differences between the style of press you have and the style without the large rotating disks? It seems that the "weingarten" brand has a different drive mechanism. Ric
March 6, 201016 yr Not familiar with that. Got a picture? Here is a photo of a 500 ton off a machinery sales site: I am not all too sure how the drive works...it may be the screw shaft is attached to the motor or the screw shaft IS the motor shaft with the motor being the large cylinder on the top. Maybe. Ric
March 6, 201016 yr Say...looks like I can make a quick $200 here. Grant, I just completed a new bottom swage for the Nazel 3B and gave her a test. It surely is not as carefree as I imagine a large friction press would be as it bounces a bit with the repeated blows, but it chewed the 8" section down on the 7 1/2" long die in short order. One heat easy with heat to spare and it is about 1/4 thick more or less with a good spread...think large leaf. BUT it is still work of a sort as I did move it a bit to keep it even and under the dies. I'd like it to see how the job could be done under a screw press. I have no idea if the 100 ton is the ticket or something larger....again..I have nothing to judge it by as my 48 ton hydraulic is slow and the 3B is a different action. I imagine it is close though. Ric Ric I really dont follow exactly what it is you want to do... but I think I might have to tool to do it I have a 210 ton Willams White forging press... it only has 12" of stroke but it will make a full 12" stroke and return in just over 10 seconds. One thing is unlike a friction press there is no stored energy being imparted by the "strike" so it wont do the work of a 200 ton friction press, but it will do very controlled forging of large material.
March 6, 201016 yr Monster ........... why do you have the sexiest tools? Well I'm dumb as a box of rocks and about as good lookin'. Gotta have somehing to woo the girls. ;-)
March 6, 201016 yr Well I'm dumb as a box of rocks and about as good lookin'. Gotta have somehing to woo the girls. ;-) wish my tool had the same effect
March 7, 201016 yr Ric I really dont follow exactly what it is you want to do... but I think I might have to tool to do it I have a 210 ton Willams White forging press... it only has 12" of stroke but it will make a full 12" stroke and return in just over 10 seconds. One thing is unlike a friction press there is no stored energy being imparted by the "strike" so it wont do the work of a 200 ton friction press, but it will do very controlled forging of large material. I can see a use for that as well....just did something this afternoon which would have gone faster with that. What amount of power does it use? Will it impart full tonnage at 1" and 12"? Have any photos of what you do with it or maybe a video? I'd like to see it working. RIc
March 7, 201016 yr I can see a use for that as well....just did something this afternoon which would have gone faster with that. What amount of power does it use? Will it impart full tonnage at 1" and 12"? Have any photos of what you do with it or maybe a video? I'd like to see it working. RIc Its a 15hp system with an exotic oil gear two stage pump.. And yes it will provide full tonnage anyplace in the stroke.. I'll make a short movie of a "major upset" and try and get it posted....
June 6, 201511 yr found a video of a 100 T screw press, you need broadband:friction screw press / forging press - down stroke and up stroke / vincent press - Maneklal and Sons (Exports)Hello it's Birson make friction screw press. www.birson.com
June 6, 201511 yr found a video of a 100 T screw press, you need broadband:friction screw press / forging press - down stroke and up stroke / vincent press - Maneklal and Sons (Exports)Hello it's Birson make friction screw press. www.birson.com
June 6, 201511 yr Welcome aboard, glad to have you. If you'll put your general location in the header you might be surprised at the difference it'll make. I assume you're with Birson so you won't be able to market your products without making the arrangements with the forum admins. Still, it's good for everybody to have someone who deals with serious metal working machinery professionally.Personally I just like seeing so much power under such fine control. It's a joy to see.Frosty The Lucky.
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