primtechsmith Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Here is one of the items Chris Winterstein demonstrated at our last guild meeting. Chris did a great job not only describing the techniques in forging this but also the theory behind the use of negtive space and options in layout. It has 4 forge welds in it, 9" dia., and the material is 3/8" round. I can see why Yellin has contracted him, and how is knowledge of the trade makes him suitable for the ABANA president position. It was a really great day. Wish you all could have been there! Photos are by guild member: Steve LaPaugh Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbiesmith Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's pretty awesome Peyton. Yeah from the pictures Chris seems fairly young. It's good to see younger guys showing craftsmanship like this. -Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don A Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That is simply beautiful. Peyton, could you give just a brief play-by-play on the steps he went through to forge that piece? Work that clean boggles my mind. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 im still looking for the 4th forge weld Mike Tanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Or the third weld? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I'm guessing that the outside ring was made of two pieces with a scroll forgewelded to one end of each piece and then the two outside pieces forgewelded together. So in other words each weld that you see is actually two welds. Or . . . I could be all wet.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primtechsmith Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 Forge welds are as follows: Step 1: make the leaf ends on two pieces of 3/8" round. Step 2: Cut 3/4 of the way through each bar back from the leaves. Step 3: FORGE WELD(1 and 2) each bar to itself where they are folded over. Step 4: FORGE WELD(3) The two bars together. Step 5: Bend the now forge welded bar around and then FORGE WELD(4) the piece together. Step 6: Make the ring as round as possible, and tweek your inner scrolls. :-) Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primtechsmith Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 This may help with my above attempt at describing it....the numbers go with the welds listed above... Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbiesmith Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Now the big question? Flux or fluxless? If flux, anything special? -Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzonoqua Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 simple, elegant, beautiful.. although I suspect not so simple to attempt getting that completely round.... and i like the sound of "tweek your inner scrolls" sounds like some sort of new age blacksmith speak for who knows what!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primtechsmith Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 He used regular 20 mule team borax, and whatever they call the borax they evaporate the moisture out of...too scientific of a name to remember or spell at the moment! LOL! Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Leppo Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Why couldn't it be welded from two pieces, w/ two welds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Covington Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Peyton, I shure wish I had been there, mabey next month. Steve sent pictures. Did you broudcast this one. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primtechsmith Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 Travis: Yeah this one ran on the webcast...it was limited room in the "webcast room", we are still waiting on word on how to accomplish moving this to a bigger arena. There are a couple of options and we are waiting for word from one individual source before we go back to the original people and request more room....I am hoping this can get done before the next meeting with Clay Spencer demonstrating... GOATMAN: I would say that the reasoning behind 4 welds instead of 2 is because it is more impressive in a demo... Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Covington Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I wasn/t ready yet either. I've got a notebook running networked to my PC so that I can work it from my recliner. I've got my demo table set up in front of me so I can see to use it. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Why couldn't it be welded from two pieces, w/ two welds? There's a good chance this is an example of more welds is simpler in execution than fewer. Handleability of the piece as you make it is important. A piece might be so awkward in only two pieces it takes many times as long to finish and increases the chance of a failure. That's just a thought though, it could've been for the show too. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keykeeper Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 That is a very nice piece. It has somewhat of a yin/yang -ness to it. Beautifully done. Wish I could have made it to that meeting. -aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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