Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I have just acquired quite a bit of 1141 and one piece is large enough to make 2 Mabe 3 hammers . I have searched for info on the steel and found it is low in carbon .It is higher in sulfur and has a good wear resistance. I am wondering if anyone has used it for hammers or other tooling , If so I have more than I need and would be willing to give some up if anyone has an interest.Oh the place I got it from makes auto parts of different types and this is one type of steel the use.And I also read it may be a stainless? Thanks, Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Its a magnese steel resulphirized steel , medium carbon , wouldn't be the BEST steel but i would think it would be ok, says full hardend it will reach 52 rc. If I had it I would certainly try one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Nick you are more than welcome to travel for a piece. Thank for the reply though. When heating on a count of the magazine is there anything to worry about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Actually I may have jumped the gun, from the heat treaters app on my iPhone it says never recommended for for forging, someone may be able to chime in with more detailed info on this. Used as a machine steel then heat treated, I would think it is the sulphur content possibly, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 This is what I have found on the steel. The sulfur but I have also read a few articles that someone has made a few hammers from it and he said it worked ok .But anyone that can give some assistance in this it would be greatly appreciated. THANKS IN ADVANCE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 41 minutes ago, Beatsy' s Forge said: This is what I have found on the steel. The sulfur but I have also read a few articles that someone has made a few hammers from it and he said it worked ok .But anyone that can give some assistance in this it would be greatly appreciated. THANKS IN ADVANCE. Did he forge them though or just make hammers i.e. Machining them from what I read it would make a decent hammer but forging it could lead to problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 It is screw machine stock, the sulfur is added like lead is to other alloys to aid in machining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Nick I am unsure if the guy forged the hammers but reading it it sounded like he forged it and quenched in oil . Big It is a screw steel. I am not sure what you mean by that can you explain? I got the steel from a place near me that presses auto parts using this stuff . If I were to make it into a hammer by say stock removal would it be a better way to get something decent to use? Is this load of steel useless to a smith and should I scrap yard It? Thanks for the reply . Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Well for full hardness 48-52 rc depending on exact carbon content you should use brine not oil, oil for sections around .3" or less. You could definetly try it and find out since you have it already, I just don't know if I would trust not running into issues if you made a bunch of em. I would try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Nick The stock I have is about 3.5x 10in so it would need to be cut and I have about 70 lbs. Of 1to2inx3.5 slices I have no idea what to do with. So for the hammer you said for 3in oil for less than 3 brine ? I was thinking a hammer about 5in from end to end this should be oil quench? Thanks again Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 .3 for oil as in 1/3 of an inch, only for really small stuff. So I would use brine , could probably swing just water though. No problem I miss read so I wanted to make sure I corrected it, just because it is "never recommended" for forging doesn't mean ya can't either I'll be waiting to see how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 We shall give it a try and see ,perhaps it my make a ok tool ,hammer..I will let you know .it will be a little while until I can get to it but you will here about it. Thanks for the clarification, Let's me get this right water should be right or shall I try oil as well just to see ? I do have extra just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickOHH Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 A good experiment would be to cut 3 equal sized pieces and heat to the same temp/color and try one in brine, water and oil and use a file to compare the hardness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 This is what I was thinking I will keep you posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've used 1144 steel for tooling..........didn't have a thick enough piece to bother making a hammer though. Please clarify the sizes you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 I have several at 3.5 x 1 to 2 in. And a large piece about 3.5x 10 in give or take any inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 is that 3.5" square stock, cut to 1 or 2 inches long.....and 3.5" square stock cut to 10" long?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatsy' s Forge Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 14 hours ago, rthibeau said: is that 3.5" square stock, cut to 1 or 2 inches long.....and 3.5" square stock cut to 10" long?? Sorry it's round stock all of it 3.5in cot to 1to 2 in. And the 10in piece is also round at 3.5 in in circumference. RTHIBEAU IF YOU DON'T MIND WHAT DID YOU FORGE OR STOCK REMOVAL WITH THE 1144. JUST WONDERING. I AM WANTING TO USE IT AS A COUPLE HAMMERS, CUTOFF HEARTY, FULLERS and I don't know what else. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. MARTIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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