Black Ink Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I wanted to make bricks strong enough for doors so I tried a different mix the suggested,they crumbled but I used the same mix to insulate a new forge and it been working top knotch. heres the mix. 1 bag fireclay,1/2bag morter,1/2bag sand,1/3box of borax.Iwould add alittle more sand but its been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 How come you don't use a insulating refractory? Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaster1766 Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 get the mortar out, and the borax, that causes it to flux at high temps just use fireclay and sand, 2 parts sand and 1 part fireclay has worked for me, make sure you let it cure, then fire it, heat it to about 2000 degrees and hold it there for a bit, its a lot like ceramics (refractory that is) Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ink Posted January 4, 2008 Author Share Posted January 4, 2008 Ron, will that mix have strength enough to use as a brick?And,strech something just doesn,t feel right about breathing that stuff in dry or when fires on it.But thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 I am not sure what you mean by airborne problems with refractory. I use Plicast31 and according to their MSDS sheet their is no problem. I don't use KaoWool because of its fragility. I don't use ceramic refractory and so not sure what the problem is. Once it is cured their is not much to fly around from the Plicast31. Here is a link to their MSDS sheets. I used to use hard refractory and it takes a lot more propane to heat up and keep hot, when you put a bunch of metal in it just sucks the heat out of the forge and takes linger to heat up.PLIBRICO: The Leader in Monolithic Refractories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 If you want more strength just add some grog but it really isn't nessecary, and to make it more isulative add some finly ground up foam or even fine saw dust, when fired it burnsout leaving little air pocckets which act as an insulator. If you want higher temp rating then use epk-kaolin instead of generic fireclay.Bailey Ceramic Supply - Clay - Dry Clays and Chemicals welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder19 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Also if you want it efficent then you want to use kaowool with a thin hot face and use the epk for that or if you have the $$ then buy ITC-100 and coat it with that, either one will stiffen it up as well as eliminate any airborn particles, just be sure to wear a dust mask when working with it, you can also dampen it which will cut down on the harmful dust when working with it. welder19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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