royce unruh Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 this topic is for people who want to build a tire hammer (like me) and want to see all the possible different designs out there for ideas on how to make their own. the style of tire hammer i am looking for i havent been able find pics or plans of anywhere. last year sometime i went to a bladesmtihs meeting at the Haywood Community College and i saw a tire hammer there that they said they had had a class and made 35 or so there. i emailed the contact person who got that ABS meeting around and havent heard from him at all. thanks for looking Royce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 · Hidden February 21, 2013 - Links to anvilfire Hidden February 21, 2013 - Links to anvilfire i have found a few designs already but not exactly what i was looking for here are the ones i found they are on anvilfire and they seem to be the closest i have found to the one i am looking for http://www.anvilfire.com/power/cr-jyh_index.htm http://www.anvilfire.com/power/nc-jyh_index.htm Link to comment
macbruce Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I expect those links to AF will dissapear in short order but since I took a look I'll say this....I wouldn't go with any PH that had permanent combo dies. You lose too many options...... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 macbruce i was thinking of removable dies and i knew when i was puting those links here that af and ifi are like oil and water they dont mix which is why i mentioned they were from af. Right now i am looking at the placement of the tire more than anything else then the spring style dies i had taken for granted were removable Regardless of the politics, links to anvilfire are not allowed to be posted here. Mod54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You need to contact Clay Specer and buy the plans from him. The hammer you saw was built in one of his classes. I don't have his contact info but Dave Custer here on IFI will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 i dont really want to do the clay spencer one but maybe "borrow" some ideas the one i saw was a little more simple if i remember right will look into them more though and see how many different designs he had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 pound for pound you will not find a better hitting hammer as the clay spencer hammer he has taken out all the guess work great plans and if you have welding experance well worth the investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLMartin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I will have my little giant up and running soon, just come over and play with it. If you stick with blacksmithing long enough I am sure youll find a old hammer to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 sorry doc misread you there i have looked some more and found this it is a clay spencer but it looks closer to what i saw every time i look at it http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index.php?showtopic=3763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 i emailed a guy i met at that meeting and he did say it was a clay spencer hammer thanks for all your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOblacksmith0530 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I have a tire hammer that was built at a BAM workshop led by Clay Spencer. You can't go wrong with it. It is currently at a friends shop being used. They can be built in less than a week if you have a bandsaw and welder. Below is the notice in our current newsletter about plans for one. Ray Clontz Tire Hammer Plans by Clay Spencer Send check/money order for $30 to Clay Spencer, 73 Penniston Pvt. Drive, Somerville, AL 35670-7013. Includes postage to US and Canadian addresses. Other countries e-mail clay@tirehammer.com for price. 256-558-3658. Tire Hammers for sale contact me for current price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 macbruce i was thinking of removable dies and i knew when i was puting those links here that af and ifi are like oil and water they dont mix which is why i mentioned they were from af. Right now i am looking at the placement of the tire more than anything else then the spring style dies i had taken for granted were removable Regardless of the politics, links to anvilfire are not allowed to be posted here. Mod54 I'm not sure I have heard of anyone needing to replace the tire yet. Does it happen often? I don't use mine daily but in 6+ years Mine looks fine... I would guess changing that tire would be similar to changing any other tire once removed from the vehicle/machine. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 thank you MOblacksmith and mod 54 sorry for the links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rberry1911 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 how much it is to build a clay spencer hammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOblacksmith0530 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 When BAM did their last build the cost was about 1500 I think. They bought most of the stock new and of course the anvil stock which as I recall was 6" round. The motors were ordered from a surplus supplier and the drive pulleys were sprockets with pipe welded onto them also from a surplus supplier, then turned true on a lathe. I would imagine if you can scrounge some of the material you could build one for 500 less the anvil which can either be really expensive or dirt cheap. The anvil needs to be pretty much a solid piece or made of heavy plate welded up into a solid mass. No guarantees on any of that just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 the response i got from clay spencer. "No blacksmith groups are getting together to do workshops. The Tire Hammer plans are $30, postpaid. Send a check or money order to Clay Spencer, 73 Penniston Pvt. Drive, Somerville, AL 35670-7013. I sell a few hammers each year for $2600." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloe01 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 About how much does a tire hammer weigh? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 mine weighs 900# - 1000# approx.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petere76 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Royce, The Spencer hammers are an excellent design and have proven to be very servicable. I have a CS hammer in my shop (Number CS-343). It was part of the NESM orchestrated build in 2011. If you have the opportunity get involved with a team build as they offer the best use of everyones particular skill set and it reduces the time required to finish the project. I haven't experienced any deficencies or operational issues with my own unit. As finished, they need to securly mounted to something soild. They are a 300 RPM recip device and they will oscilate if you don't bolt it down somewhow. I chose to mount my own on a 4x4 steel plate (@ 800 lbs). Tooling does require some creativity because of the relatively low lift height. In this regard, Upon review, you get a stand alone, proven mechanical design produced for something in the neighborhood of $2000.00. The unit has a reasonable finished footprint, low overall height and it is somewhat portable. If noise or vibration is an issue in your shop, fill the upright stantion with sand and oil and or mount the hammed on a section of high density stall matting. Good luck with your project. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 am probably gonna mail a check tommorrow to Mr Spencer for plans but i do have one question are the dies welded to a plate which in turn is bolted to the anvil? if so then they would still be interchangable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petere76 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Royce , On the Spencer hammers I have seen, the die sets are bolted (socket head, cap screws) into the tup and the anvil in two places. I am sure you could use any number of other configurations that suits your needs. Two bolt points seems to work pretty well. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royce unruh Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 got the plans today cant wait to get started on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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