help with scroll

[irnsrgn]

I made this today, just to see if I had forgotten how, and to ask if this is the style Tio wants. I was a little rusty making the taper tho, it is 3/8 HR square.

would like your comments please.

[Ten Hammers]

Junior, bud, looks fine to me. You do better than me on button ends for shore.

[Mills]

I don't see a thing wrong. I prefer a longer taper but that means I usually make them too thin, :)

[HWooldridge]

It's tough to get the ha'penny perfectly round and flowing out of the scroll body. Where you stopped on the tip form, I would have taken another heat and cooled the round side in water, then hammered down on the anvil to smooth the transition.

There is also a tool which helps get this transition correct. Imagine a cut off hardy with the edge rolled naturally over to be parallel to the ground. The scroll tip is hung off the edge of the "hardy" and hammered as necessary.

This isn't a criticism - just a hint to make that ha'penny as round as a coin.

[primtechsmith]

looks good Jr.

Peyton

[HWooldridge]

This is what I was trying to describe. The parent stock was 1/4x1 flat iron. The pic is a little fuzzy but you can see the continuous flowing radius.

[Daryl]

The tool HWooldridge is speaking of is called a swan's neck hardie. If you like, I'll take some pics of mine.

[Rantalin]

That'd be nice Daryl. Always great to have some images to go along with the words.

[Blackbeard]

Very nice Jr- hope mine will look as good!
Bb

[Daryl]

The images are a touch grainy (had to use the phone camera), though here it is. I find it necesarry to use it for particular sizes of material and certain scrolls and the majority are just done on the face and over the far edge of the anvil.

[High Plains Forge]

Looks good, man. Just depends if you are happy with it or not. I went through the same thing as you a couple of months ago when I was doing some shelf brackets. I now have about 10 screwed up halfpenny scroll ends in my scrap pile.

I finally decided that I like a shorter taper when I do a halfpenny scroll, but that's just my preference. If you go too thin it's really easy to mangle the end. So, I was using 1/2" square on these and I shoulder it down to about 1/4".

I attached a couple pictures of my scroll starter tool. I get it started in there and then quench the end before it put it in the scroll jig to keep from damaging it. Hope that helps!

[irnsrgn]

the snub end one half penny, scroll ends are a bit a long tapered difficult for tio or beginning smiths to master and also make them look good, so I came up with an alternative that is easy and pleasing to the eye and automatically blends.

We just made a long taper on the end and rolled a rat tail on the very end.

[HWooldridge]

Jr.

Yes - I also really like the rat tail style and use it periodically - sometimes I mix it with solid ones in the same piece.

[irnsrgn]

This my version of an english tool for helping make snub end and half penny snub end scrolls when I am at home. The English just have one size to theirs, I made all 4 sides different sizes to use, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4 and 1 inch.