jmccustomknives Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have gotten asked in the past for knives made from files. I finally got around to buying a mixed lot of old files. The first one I worked was an old Lennox file marked "for stainless". I heated to non magnetic, quenced in my version of "Goddards Goop" tempered at 400f. It wouldn't get sharp. I dropped it on its tip, it left a divot with the very end of the tip being left in the concrete. Thinking I made a mistake I annealed it and repeated the process this time quenching in oil and tempered at 375F with the same results. It acts like 1070, what edge it takes it looses with little effort. I forged a blade from a large Lennox file that wasn't marked "for stainless", it took a better edge but I haven't finished testing it yet. I've had good results from Nicolson files, they make excellent knives. I just took one I made from a Simmonds out of temper, it warped so I'll have to take it back down and redo it. Anyway, has any of you guy ever had experiance with Lennox files? If so, what results compaired with Nicolson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendall P Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Im not sure what files ive got - but if i spot a lennox - ill give it a quick whirl and see if i run into the same problems and let you know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willis Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Never tried a lennox. Very good results with Black Diamond and Nicolson-which bought out Black Diamond in the 60's I believe. I stay away from Simmonds, they're made in china. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Simonds files are about the best you can buy, for my money. They cut better and last longer than Nicholsons. Don't care where they're made: they're great tools. No idea about Lennoxes. You might try a more aggressive quenchant. Goop is relatively slow, and files tend to be made from shallow-hardening steels that want a fast quenchant. (The steel Nicholson is using nowadays is basically 1095 with a dash of chromium.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Well for that matter my file of choice for things like billets is the old black diamond from *before* Nicholson bought them and they were still 1.2% Carbon---just the thing to juice up a billet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 I've got a few of the original "black diamonds". I did a simmonds and it did seem to get harder than the lennox but for some reason (I know why but ain't admitting it) the blade warped during heat treat. I'll have to straiten it out and try again. I could have sworn though, the simmonds had "made in the usa" stamped on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 AFAIK both Simonds and Nicholson files are made overseas, now. Both used to be made in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 Update: The Lenox file that was giving me trouble. I heated it back up and quenched it in water, which is something I never do. It seems to have gotten harder. I haven't finished testing yet. I don't know about the Simmonds, but as for the Nicholson files; we sell them and the half round bastards are made in Brazil and the mill files are made in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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