pete46 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I'm in the military and we have to adapt some sheilds to allow for barrels to fit through them. This steel is HHS; is anyone familiar w/this type of steel ? is it air hardening? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 My brother has cut stuff meeting the description of "armor steel" on a plasma cutting table. Don't know if it was the same stuff, and don't know if it is air hardening or not. I expect it is more "tough" than "hard" though. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I am familiar with HSS -- high speed steel -- but I had never heard of HHS until now. Here are a couple data sheets. http://www.alleghenytechnologies.com/defense/docs/081491%20ATI%20Def%20600-MIL%20Insert.pdfhttp://www.alleghenytechnologies.com/defense/docs/081057%20ATI%20Def%20500-MIL%20HR.pdf The ATI-600 ultra high hardness stuff looks interesting. It's like a lower carbon, higher nickel L6. Medium carbon, lots of chromium, a whole bunch of nickel, some moly and silicon. Should be really tough stuff. I'd guess it would air harden in thinner sections, just like L6 does. The ATI-500 high hard armor steel is similar, but with carbon in the .22%-.32% range. That's not a lot, so the max hardness is probably limited. I bet it'd make great struck tools, though.Or you could use it as a bright layer in pattern welding. Bottom line: I'd say keep some if they'll let you, regardless of which alloy you have. They'd both be worth playing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Furrer Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm in the military and we have to adapt some sheilds to allow for barrels to fit through them. This steel is HHS; is anyone familiar w/this type of steel ? is it air hardening? Thanks in advance. The best thing to do is get the specs on chemistry and recommended procedures for cutting and welding from the manufacturer....and then apply them. I am not sure you would wish to do too much work (heat/weld) to a material designed for armor plating as it has been treated in a way to gain those properties...your secondary operation may reduce its usefulness to a lower grade of material....or worse Ric.....former SGT US Army (I lifetime ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBower Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Ric makes an excellent point, although I think he and I assumed different underlying reasons for your question. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete46 Posted November 12, 2011 Author Share Posted November 12, 2011 Thanks ya'll I can work with this! Rick thank you for your service! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shimanek Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 If this is an approved modification, there should be a MWO (Modification Work order) on file with the proper procedures. If no MWO exists, Ric's advice is excellent. Steve, former Army Ordnance captain, Tank and Automotive Maintenance, several lifetimes ago :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete46 Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 The MWO just says use a plasama cutter so as not to mess up the the temper.[just w/alot more words and way more confusing] THANKS CAPT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shimanek Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 :D You are welcome and stay safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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