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Hi guys iam 15 old and i just started blacksmithing iam new here .iam a hacker from albania andi love blacksmithing. i have saw different metods to temper the steel so which is better? using hot steel and parafine or used oil? post your oppinion and your way to temper please thanks .

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Before you ask a lot of questions, look around the site and read things. How to temper is based on why you need to temper. If you read a bit here, you would have noticed we have Heat Treating sections in the forum, as well as a separate section for it in blade work.

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I'm assuming you are referring to hardening of steel which is one of several different processes involved in heat treating. [normalization, hardening, drawing temper, (and there also can be other processes involved to and some processes can be repeated several times!)]

It depends on the steel alloy---what is best for one alloy may destroy a different alloy
it depends on the use---how you heat treat a hammer head made from an alloy may differ from how you heat treat a knife blade.
It depends on your personal preference too; I like my knife blades to be quite tough and easy to sharpen in the field so I sometimes will quench in oil where others will use water.

My heat treat for knives from the alloys I typically use: (often automotive coil and leaf springs):

Forging: then after forging anneal---heat to nonmagnetic and allow to cool in dry wood ashes---should still be warm to the touch hours later. In cold weather I heat a helper bar up hot and stuff both of them into the ashes together. Annealing leave the blade soft for filing, drilling, etc

Normalization: Heat to non-magnetic and allow to cool in still air 3 times. This refines the grain size for many modern alloys, Finer make a blade tougher!

Hardening: Heat to non-magnetic and quench in warm oil. I prefer to used warm vegetable oil---cooking oil--- to quench in. It can be "used"; as I often do a base temper in our kitchen stove ---I don't want my wife to slay me in my sleep from putting cruddy used motor oil in our kitchen oven. Remember that oil will flare up---burn---no problem because it's in a metal container out in the forge. I have a lid I can place over the container to kill the fire. Then IMMEDIATELY draw temper!

Tempering: I will usually use the kitchen oven to draw a base temper on the entire blade. After I have drawn the base temper several times on the entire blade I will use a small torch or tempering tongs to draw temper further on areas of a blade that do not need to be so hard---like the back of a single edged blade or the tang, again I do this several times.

Then I am DONE with heat treat and can go back to finishing the blade being careful that it never gets hotter than the base tempering temperature.

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