philip in china Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 2 new threads from me in 2 days. This really is like old times. I want to make some big tongs to work with the power hammer. I have made plenty of small one handed tongs but never anything any bigger. Is there anything special I should do or are they just a bigger version of ordinary tongs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 From what I understand, they are just bigger. I have seen some pictures of large ones and listened to the industrial smiths that hang around, there doesn't seem to be any magic. The tongs that I make for 1 and 2" stock are along the poz tong variety with more metal in the neck and boss. Clifton Ralph put out a film on the use of hammers and tongs. He is very knowledgable on large forging. One thing I picked up on was that he used pincer tongs a lot. Set the hot steel on the dies and use tongs with two hands to manuever it around. See YouTube - Industrial Blacksmithing-Slug Punching a Hole, Part Two for some ideas along this line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 How big is bigger? Most of the pieces I see on this site are not what I term large, and basic tong making rules apply. There was a time when there were standard specifications for tongs, which by and large seem to be ignored in these present times although a web search may reveal some details. You need tongs in proportion to the workpiece they are to hold, and the job they have to do. When the size of the workpiece gets heavy to lift and manipulate you will need to incorporate lifting points at appropriate places to allow the manipulation, You will also need a suitable gantry and lifting tackle to suspend them from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I remember there were some pics or video posted of a lifting ring that tongs could be passed thru to help lift with use of overhead equipment. I thought the tongs just looked bigger, nothing else different. If someone knows what I mean or was looking at could they re-post it? This is using very large tongs and a chain in a similar manner to what I was thinking.Pneumatic Forging Hammer from Anyang Forging Press - Video Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Phillip: By big, you mean 1" or 10" bar? I know you just got a 55lb hammer so "big" is pretty relative. You won't need big tongs for that, just the same ones you use for hand hammer work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Phillip there is a BP on the woop tongs By Uri Hofi on the Blue prints they will meet your needs I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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