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MrMedieval

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  1. Awesome Hefty thanks for that..great to hear i can make the burners for so much less than artisan supplies. Appreciate the help thanks again.
  2. Hey Hefty I'm in NSW...may i ask what you ended up paying to fit out your burners? I was going to buy the burners from https://www.artisansupplies.com.au/product/dual-gas-forge-burner-bkit7/ Expensive shop but the burners are good quality. I'm going to build my own forge in the end...but it was tempting to buy the Volcano. I had a moment of self doubt in regards to building my own but got over that pretty fast. :)
  3. Yeah fair enough..if a forge is prone to warping then it must be thin walled, no wonder people use 9kg gas/BBQ bottles for forges. Thanks for the advice for the kiln shelf, that sounds like a great idea and i have some here i could actually use. By high aluminia do you mean the cement? Thank you for the insight regarding burner placement.
  4. Everything here is expensive Mikey and trust me it wouldn't be cheaper to make my own burners. I appreciate what your saying but end of the day what we pay here is ridiculous compared to you guys in the USA. As an example you guys would pay around $60K for a top of the line Tesla..here their worth $120K+ that's how over priced everything is here. But no after looking more into forges I've just discovered ribbon burners. Also regarding burners, I'm still trying to figure out whether or not having the burners pointing straight down from the top, or pointing in from the side being the best option/design. I was just watching a video of a Volcano forge on youtube and it took longer than i thought to heat up a piece of steel.. The burners were heating up the side of the bricks more than the steel is self..had me scratching my head just watching it. The Majestic forges seem to heat the steel up very quickly for the burners are pointing straight down and heat the steel directly.
  5. Hi Mikey, with Amazon Prime they offer free international shipping, so would only be a total of $344AUD. If i were to buy the 2 burners and the refractory materials here it would cost $448. But i would need 2 offerings of the refractory materials so the cost would actually be $667 excluding shipping, so around $700AUD all up. The cost of the refractory materials alone cost more than the forge-$448AUD. The only thing that might be a problem is the propane connection..would it actually fit the bottles we have here. Even if it didn't fit, it would still be cheaper for me to have the Volcano shipped here and i simply change the connections to suit.
  6. Hi BayardStrachan i feel your pain in regards to shipping. We are very remote from the USA that's for sure. The Mr.Volcano Hero 2 forge has VERY good reviews, people have been really impressed with it. What surprises me is the cost, it's a xxxx of a bargain and being made in the USA is even more appealing. I'm actually torn between building my own now...hmm decisions decisions.
  7. Many thanks for the replies everyone. Thanks Tinkertim for letting me know the bricks aren't heavy, but in all honesty i would much rather use steel and insulate that because i already have the steel, but i will have bricks for the floor. Thanks for the advice Frosty, i was concerned about heat treatment but the use of a muffle is a great idea. I recently saw a forge for sale online at amazon and was interested by the shape of it, it's neither square or cylindrical. It's called Mr Volcano Hero 2. The reviews are really good for it, of course i wont be buying it for it would cost way too much to have it sent here from the USA but i like the design. Basically i have the steel to easily make that shape, what do you guys think of that kind of set up? Their supposed to be better than the Devil Forges that also resemble the Majestic Forges.
  8. Hi Mikey thanks for the reply. I never would have thought of using bricks, i will look into them but bricks would be kind of heavy i think...but still i like that idea of using them still..good excuse to mount the forge on a trolley. I have plenty of angle iron and flat bar..hmm time for more searching and researching thanks again.
  9. Hi Frosty thanks for the reply. I spent a bit of time going through the Forges 101 section..i guess i will have to do more searching but i never really found what i was looking for..guess i will have to keep digging. Yep I'm aware i can only forge a few inches, 4-6 at a time all good there...but what made you think my forge is going to be 30" long? In my post i mentioned it would only be around 21" long. My steel would not be sagging..forge thick grind thin and i have forged before..please remember this is about building my first propane forge..not being a first time wannabe bladesmith/blacksmith. If i was running a coke forge i never would have made an account here. I'm 6ft 4" and have very long arms so i don't need step ladders to achieve a vertical quench, that would be an easy feat for me. Good to know a square forge wont be an issue thank you. I will spend more time reading through the Forges 101 section. Moderators can delete this thread thanks.
  10. Hi everyone, i thought it best i start a thread in regards to getting the best advice and guidance to building my first propane forge. I was thinking of purchasing a propane forge but i realised with a bit of time and effort i could build a much better forge and actually save a few hundred bucks along the way. So the forge i want to build will be primarily used for medieval swords. but also other things like plant hangars, fire pits, steel gate's, etc. I have a terrible sword fetish, most will be simply wall hangars, some for a medieval display and one or two for some backyard cutting. I was going to build a square forge around 21"-25" long, 8"-9" wide...dimensions roughly based from a Majestic Forge..but after looking at the burner specs from a supplier they say the forge should be cylindrical in shape because there would be a deviation in function and performance? One question I would love to ask is..would i need a 3-burner forge for what i need...or would a 2-burner forge be sufficient? I attached a mocked up photo of some steel i picked up after recently getting myself an oxy torch and brazing tips, gauges, etc and thought ooh this would be great for the forge..but again after reading the specs for the burners they say the forge should be cylindrical in shape for optimum performance. That's fine and everything..but it would be great to hear what you guys think..if i need to build cylindrical that's easy also. I can easily weld, drill and tap, cut steel, etc that's why in the end i would much rather build my own forge...and well as you all know building is great fun and it's something i really ,enjoy. I suppose my 2 biggest questions are cylindrical or square..and 2 burners or 3? I was going to use an old beer keg i have which is 316 stainless steel, but it's too large and would need way too much insulation to fill it. I thought i could purchase 2x9kg gas bottles and weld them together to I have a feeling I've almost answered my own questions..cylindrical with 3 burners might be the best choice...but would love to hear everyone's thought's on this and would greatly appreciate any help thank you.
  11. No worries at all thanks FTL. I'm going to make a new thread in regards to building..or maybe buying a new forge.
  12. Yep for sure..i never thought of using oil to achieve a temper thanks for the advice much appreciated. Thanks Billybones i have just the place i could ask about that.
  13. Frosty-Thanks very much amigo. That's a great idea about using a used commercial oven thank you for that I'll start looking for them. I agree about using a practice sword for sure..i did that with knives a few years ago. For my sword I will be using 80CRV2..and practice steels will be from 5160 which i have plenty of. JHCC-Hi and thanks also for your reply. Sorry i was warned by a moderator for abusing quote feature so I'll just the @ symbol to address the replies. The help will be greatly appreciated thank you..and i plan to make quite a few swords over the next few years for sure.
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