Damascus Mike

What's wrong with a jack or cylinder? Hydraulics are the best way to opperate a press, if you are against them then what did you have in mind for your press mechanism? You could build a screw press or an arbor press but I don't see why you would want to power either of them with an elec. motor.
What are you wanting the press for? forging or just a shop press?
Try searching on google for homemade presses or something similar, then you may get a better idea of what you want to build or atleast get a better understanding of different style presses

welder19

I dont have anything agains jacks or cylanders i just wanted to see if it was posible,ok ive changed my mind about the electric motorized press thing,im ganna use the jack i have,my press must be small under about 25 -30 kgs or less and it will be for forging and hopefully for Damascus if fast enough,i know people in the past have said i must use an air compressor but the truth is ive got one buy its old rusty and im scared its ganna explode if i let it built up preasure.ok ive sort of got an idea of how to make it and ill try explain it.


The press will be an H style press with the jack in the middle under the bar that goes up and down i want the jack to have my motor atached to it running the hand pump up and down making it pump the ram up very fast.If you have any changes or tips to make it better and faster fell free to comment.The press in the pic is what i wanna make.

You may wanna try a search in the phone book for that area under M

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Finnr

i dont have a clue of what you just said

First you state



then follow with this excuse



now you guess its a soft stone? Is that like your statement of soft stop sign steel, or was it cardboard? I have never been to NZ so maybe they do have cardboard signs there, I will ask a hobbit next time I see one.

Dmike, you were doing better but it seems you have insisted on posted silliness again. If the materials were unknown to you, why try to come off as knowing what is was. Gzzzz. Guessing does not help anyone learn, without tested proofs of a theory its just opinion.

And some members complain when I try to clear up this sites confusing or screwy posts? I guess some like having to sift through nonsense, even when it causes people to miss the intent of a post and have trouble.

you always tell me to read the threads and postings properly so i can absorb all the info,now i think its your turn,im not having a go at you but you seriously miss alot of the things i say,if you can recall i said i dont know exactly what type of tungsten it is,i was told by the guy who made it that it was Tungsten he is my friend and i trust his judgement so dont be like this to me just because i trust what he says is true,but if you guys have such a problem with this whole thing then ill phone the guy and ask him what it is and if its pure or if its W carbide,and as to the rock it went into im not a rock specialist so i dont know if its soft or very hard but id take it that its not a hard rock because i agree with you people that if it was a very hard rock then the sword probly would have just stopped or exploded,as to the stop sign its made from steel and thats normally the thing we test swords on,obvioulsy the signs are old ones that we have been given to use for our cause.if there is another bad coment thrown towards me ill simply just ignor this thread.As i said ill get a pic of this sword and the rock the next time im there in that area.

Amazing how easily riled grown men (including experts) can get over something as silly as this

just to play devil's advocate

I suppose what DM saw could've been a crack in the stone (maybe it was a lump of concrete cast around the base of the sign?). The sword happened to hit the crack with enough force that it lodged in it. Not actually cutting the stone, but fitting into a slot already there and sticking due to eihter metal burring over or crushed stone dust?

anyway, I've always assumed the 'sword in teh stone' myth to be a hangover from bronze swords being cast in stone molds. If you don't get the casting out in tme the sword shrinks and grips the inside of he mold and thus is stuck in the stone. I did originally hear the theory fromthe same bloke (I suspect), but I've heard it since and having done a little casting it makes sense.

i simply think it was a very soft stone

Well as i said next time im in that area of the contry ill get a pic 4 sure

Im not making it up,but if you dont have the decency to believe me then why must i waste my time on this thread, i just added my input and thats that, you can believe it or not but if you dont believe it then i wont waste my on answering. i came here to add input not have a huge fight on if its true or not so you can put up or shut up wateva that means.

DM, another thought, if available to you, is to enroll in an industrial arts class. It may teach you some basic physical mechanics to learn how simple machinery works and doesn't work. Electric motors are generally useless without some sort of mechanics; hydraulics, pulleys, gear boxes etc. to drive. Otherwise, they just sit and spin.

oh sorry i may have explained it a bit different then some people may know,i mean ive got a motor and alot of scrap metal and a jack but i wanna see if i can make a press with only the motor as a driver,even if it runs pulleys or gears or wateva it needs i just dont wanna use a jack or hydrolic cylanders.
Any other ideas?if there is no way to do it i can use my bottle jack if needed i just need to know how,im very keen on the press that has a motor running the hand pump up and down with a cam but im not sure if ill get it right.

I think you talk like you're 12.

Show us a pic of the "tungsten" sword stuck in a rock or come up with something that's at least plausible.

Frosty

well go on then tell me how i must talk,its not my fault that i happened to see something thats supossibly impossible.

Ok I can't keep quiet any longer.."complete tungsten"?? W/Wolfram/Tungsten is way too brittle by itself to make a sword out of..however an alloy with W in it can be a very good thing but pure W?? NO WAY..and the really funny thing about it is it isn't all that hard in the pure state either..I have cut W bars with a bimetal hacksaw when I am doing my wootz melts.. Now tungsten carbide is a different beast but since this fellow mentioned just W, then this is very suspect.

Heck..pure W is used for light bulb filaments and it is easily drawn into wire..so how can it be hard enough to do what this kid said..Methinks he is just here to stir the pot up and get some sort of perverse pleasure out of it...

JPH

well then its proberly Tungsten carbon i dont know if its PURE tungsten or if it Tungsten carbide i was just told that its made from tungsten.

Still waiting on that picture, and will update this thread to keep reminding you.

im not ganna go out my way and drive all the way to him just to get a picture,but as i said the next time i go to him ill take a million pics if you want.

Would it be too much trouble to provide us with photos of this sword stuck in the rock in from of the fellows house? A long shot and several close ups of the entrance into the stone as well as where the blade enters and exits the stone would be nice. I would like to attach it to your post for reference.

Well i dont know if you read my post right, i didnt say it went right through the stone, it just entered it went it sliced through the stop sign

12 yrs?you think im 12 years old?or what do you mean?ill get the pic next time i see him

Ray Clontz drives a hydraulic jack with a motor on a homemade press. You can find pictures with descriptions in the photo gallery on forgemagic.com under "ptpiddler".

yes ive seen this press before but i meant a press with only a motor no jack or cylanders or anything else just a motor.but thanx for telling me because i couldnt remember what the website was called but now i do.

usual is to have the motor spin a hydraulic pump

Can you explain what you mean if posible? thanx

Look at the electrified screw press using a friction drive.

where do i search for it?what website?

hey guys ive got a little question i need to ask,im interested in small presses and i was wondering if its possible to make a small press some how using an electic motor to force the ram down


thanx Mike


ps:ive searched it and cant find ANYTHING on the subject

too bad the camera man wouldnt stay in one frame at a time too much zooming in and out but hey the power hammer is still a working tool its beter than just a planed idea of mabey making.i might try one exactly like that just a smaller version because i only got a smaller motor

Ive seen a broad sword make from completely Tungsten and the guy swung it at a stop sign and it sliced through the sign so easily that the sword had so much momentim left it inbeded its self half way into a 84 kg rock,we needed to get a fork lift to get the rock to his house because he could even get the sword to move,the sword now stands in his house still inside the rock,haha i said to him that it reminds me of excalibre

oh ok i see

what are the spings on the jack for?

today i used a guilotine to cut up a bansaw blade

you what Steve, just 4get about it, because i came for help but clearly you have a problem with me so leave it ill just find it somewhere else

as i said already i did what you guys told me and i searched the net and iforgeiron but i didnt find it,besides i dont even know what to type in the search bar, i dont know what the chart is called

Hi guys its Dm here and ive got a bit of a problem,well i always get told by people of what metals are good and stronge and they use names like 1050 or 1080 and i just cant figure out what these numbers mean,i have searched the web for hours looking for a chart or something explaining these numbers but i just cant find anything,if anybody has a chart or something explaining these numbers and a way of telling what they are normally called i will greatly appreciate you showing me.
thanx in advance Dm

k i will try that also

My advise is if you going to make it mirror shiny buy lots and lots of fine grit paper because they eat it up like its nothing.this is my knife from a tractors l/m blade