Wyatt Kindler

I'll add a piece of insulation board behind it.

Thanks

51 minutes ago, Kozzy said:

10" flu has a cross sectional  area of 79.3 square inches.  That'd equate to a square opening of 8.9"  so it appears your changes are reasonable. 

That's the same math I did to come up with my final 8x9 opening. The adjustable opening probably would've been a good idea but it's a little late now... lol

And as for the bottom plate in the front, I didn't have it there originally so I could put stock all the way through the fire. I didn't want the hood to take up lots of forge space. However I did add one to it but left about a 2" gap in the middle for more versatility. 

The hood seems to work very well. The ducting system isn't complete yet so I just added 4 feet of 10" pipe to test it. I lit a small pile of leaves in the firepot and the smoke went sideways up the hood very nicely.

Right now I have the opening about 10"x 11" with a 10" pipe. I'll decrease the opening to maybe 8x8 or 8x9. 

Thanks as always

I will fix that as soon as possible, thanks

I'm sure 12" would be the best but I got quite of a bit of 10" for free from family so I'm going with that.

I also changed the design of the hood I'm going with, as Jim mention my hood design did not work at all. I went with a design very similar but with some small dimensional changes as the super sucker side draft. Should work much better. 

Thanks for all the great info, much appreciated

Ok, I'll take some time later on today to read more on hood design and entrance.

Thanks

Ok thanks for the responses guys. As for the stack I have an 8" flange sitting in top for now but I still have to get the pipe. I'll try to get 10" or 12" if i can. 

I'm building a new coal forge and have a large part of a stainless steel drawer that is going to act as a hood. I know it's not the perfect shape but it seems to be about the best I could come up with for no cost.

I am a little concerned about the hood being stainless steel; will the stainless give off any sort of toxic gases at a high temperature or anything else hazardous I should know about? I'm not sure what grade of stainless it is.

Thanks, Wyatt

As for the date, it was made sometime before 1898. It seems to be a later German Trenton as the earlier ones have different stamps.

On 1/23/2018 at 7:32 PM, MC Hammer said:

  I wonder how many other members have Boker Trentons?  How about you show them off in this thread everyone!  Let's see them, good, bad and the ugly.

Just picked up another Trenton this morning. Weighs 159 pounds and I believe it's another made in Germany.  Got it for $200 which I think was a fair price for these days because there's a few weld repairs on the edges, although they seem old and have held up through use. It has excellent rebound (about 90-95% with a half inch ball bearing) and a nice ring.

The bottom photo is comparing the stamps between the 159 and the other 234 boker I have. The new to me 159 can clearly read "Trenton, patent, solid wrought ( in a circle) and the weight, 159.

13 hours ago, Judson Yaggy said:

English hundredweight and flats on the feet,  very likely to be a PW.

It also has that signature PW look to it, nice anvil.

On 1/22/2018 at 1:01 PM, MC Hammer said:

Black Frog.  My Boker Trenton doesn't have "Germany" printed on it and the "Solid Wrought" is not in a circle but two words one on top of the other.  Since getting mine I've been looking at every Boker that presents its self and see 3 different types so far:

• Bokers that have "Solid Wrought" (not in a circle) below the Trenton mark with no "Germany" on them.  IMHO these are the earliest dated ones.
• Bokers that have "Solid Wrought" in a circle printed below the Trenton mark with no "Germany" on them.  I think these are mid-age types.  I see a lot of them like this.
• Bokers with "Solid Wrought" in a circle printed below the Trenton mark with "Germany" marked on them.  I think these anvils are the latest dating Bokers given the requirement to put the country of origin on them.

I don't have any documentation to back this up, just a theory of mine since we don't know much about the Boker Trenton anvils.  I'd love to hear other theories and opinions, especially from Black Frog.  I could be wrong on all or some of the above.

One thing is for sure, all Bokers have PW like feet.  Find an anvil with PW feet and a Trenton trade mark stamped on it and you have yourself an early Boker Trenton anvil.

My broken Boker Trenton also has a bit of the peter wright look with the flats on the feet but is clearly made in Germany.

On the note of prices at the moment, it sure seems FIF wont be going away any time soon. More and more people seem to be watching and enjoying it as the seasons progress. 

Got some good laughs out of this, the CL for Buffulo NY is pretty funny at the moment with the keyword anvil.

Cool to know these were drop forged. I like the u-bolt design as well, i recently found a 6" peter wright leg vise that didnt have a mounting bracket. Simply did exactly what you said, i forged a u-bolt out of some 5/8 round and used a heavy piece of angle as the mounting bracket. Thanks for the info.

Heres that PW with the u-bolt.

I've had this vise for a little over a year now and I have tried to find some info on it, with no luck. It has 4" jaws, weighs 35 pounds, and was obviously made by the columbian vise co.

For the past while now I've been trying to figure out how it was made. It has raised letters and numbers which seems to imply casting, but i cant find porosity anywhere which seems to be common with casting. Were these vises drop forged? Any other info such as when it was possibly made would be appreciated. Thanks.

That vise in the top 3 photos is awesome, looks like all original parts, great job.

Pretty much finished with the mounting bracket, all I have to do is drill some holes for the bolts. I went for the simplest design I could think of. Its a simple u-bolt I bent and threaded out of 5/8 round bar, and a big piece of angle iron (that i might shape with a grinder so it's a bit more pleasing to the eye). Seems like It will be pretty solid. I got the design from my 4" Colombian leg vise in the bottom photo.

It truly is a thing of beauty.

For mounting the vise, should I try to use the original U bracket and try to make my own wedging system? Or should I go simpler with a u bolt and some heavy angle iron as the mounting bracket? Not sure what to do yet because I believe the wegding system might be difficult to duplicate. Any thoughts?

I'll try to do some research. Mine might have said "patent solid box" but it was probably obliterated by rust and stray marks.

Thanks for the info, I'm in love with the vise. I cant wait to make a new bracket and get it mounted. Any clue about when these vises were made?

What a great scrapyard find for 40 bucks!  The vise is in pretty good condition but is missing the mounting bracket and wedge. The jaws are 5.5 inches wide. The vise stands at 40 inches tall and weighs 105 pounds as is. The lead screw and screwbox are in remarkable conditon for a scrapyard find. The only markings I could find are "R444R" on the bottom of the screwbox. I believe it's a Peter Wright, but does anyone know more about it? Thanks for any info.

1 hour ago, ThomasPowers said:

TPAAAT and you might have that kind of luck!

Lol, I guess mine find was pretty lucky, but the condition that one is in is amazing for 65 bucks.

3 hours ago, Ferrous Beuler said:

I forgot to mention the best part. After about a year and a half of looking all over the map I finally found this one (my first) at a barn sale in the summer of 2001, almost tripped over it actually as I stepped into the barn from the bright sunlight before my eyes could adjust. $65. I thought I might have to defibrilate myself with my jumper cables but somehow I managed to pay the lady and not pass out.

Wow, i would love to have that kind of luck, that sounds like a dream.

Thanks for the info, yours sure is a beauty. Seems like pretty much perfect condition. The stone weight and the flat part on the feet together really seems to indicate a PW, plus the shape like you mentioned.

Thanks for the information Frosty, and I'm always looking to buy more anvils to impress with. Just couldn't pass this one up for 50 bucks.