Much appreciated
Thank you all again for the advice, maybe I should explain that I am not completely new to steel work. I learn fast (regardless of being an old dog) and have hammered out a lot of round stock to flat, and flat to round. Then back again, just to learn how to hammer things out. I helped a friend craft a few knives a hundred years ago (read 25), and have always wanted to pick this up as a hobby/trade. Just needed to finish my duty to the military and finish raising my kids. Now I have grandkids and more time to work on what I want.