brianstucker

On June 4, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Frosty said:

Better. ITC-100 doesn't fire hard and will rub off after a while. Metrikote hardens for better durability and costs WAY less. The last time I checked a 1lb. can of ITC-100 cost around $126.00 plus something like $25.00 shipping and handling. Worse, it's premixed with water so I'm paying something like $125/lb for WATER!

If I didn't just mix Zircopax and Kast-O-Lite -30 to make my own kiln wash I'd be buying one of the two products Wayne sells. 

Frosty The Lucky.

Thanks Buddy. I appreciate it.

Frosty. Do you think the Metrikote works as good as ITC-100?

That's what I do. I like having enough material on hand for experimentation purposes. I have already built a couple nice forges and give some too a buddy. And still I have enough to do a couple more. I'm in the process of building a nice little 2 burner forge.

I get it for 75$ a box from this place. They are in St. Louis Mo. I dont know what shipping would be.

http://hitempincusa.com/index.asp

I use a clear plastic that is sticky on one side to coat my wood forms. It makes them water tight. I have been a little cautious about spraying chemicals for a releasing agent.

My large ribbon burner will flat out eat through some propane. The smaller ribbon burner does pretty good.  The larger on is a 33 hole and the smaller burner has 11 holes.  I'm building some Venturi burners to try out. A lot simpler and cheaper.

Sorry for the late response. I dont check ifi everyday. My mini burner is 7.5" × 2.5". I just used a cheap dayton 135 cfm blower fan. Honestly Idk why the larger burner developed the cracks twice. I cured out the Mizzou per instructions. The only think I can think of is I built a thicker burner body. Maybe the steel got too hot and expanded causing the cracking. They actually cracked in the same spot. On the mini burner I built. I used 2.5"  14 gauge square tubing. The larger burner body is 3/16" material.

Ive been building forges. But if I was going to buy one. I think I would go with the Chili Forges. They look simple. 

Nice

Update the mini burner will reach forge welding temp.

I built a couple of ribbon burner forges. They work great. But I have already had to rebuild the burner in my larger forge twice. The smaller one works great. I ended up converting my large forge to just forced air out of a 2" pipe. And let me tell you what that dude flat out rocks now. I could probably get that dude to 2700 degrees but I shut it down at 2400 degrees. I have 1 1" layer of Kawool and the I cast the interior with 99% alumina refractory. Which is a 3400 degree refractory. And the floor is silicon carbide. I think all of this is straight overkill but that's how my my mind works. I have built a couple of very simple Venturi style burners. They work great. I am going to build the forge bodies this week for the Venturi style burners.

Here is a thread with my ribbon burner. I also built the mini ribbon burner. I use a 1/16" orfiace on the mini. 1/8" was just too much of a fuel dump. And I also used a lot smaller blower. I hooked up my 164cfm to the mini and had way too much air. If you have any questions just ask. I am no expert but have spent many hours playing with fuel to air mix for these burners.

Thats very nice.

9 hours ago, Frosty said:

This is a first blush speculation by a guy who'd have to research things to have a real opinion. I know they make spark "proof" cyclonic dust separators. Seen them in metal shops for decades.

I think the real trick is effectively collecting dust at the grinder without the collector becoming a hazard to safe operation.

Frosty The Lucky.

 I was asking about "if anybody has or knows where" a specific type of motor blower. Not the actual dust system. Thanks for your Advice. 

Is anybody here bidding on this anvil on EBay? It only weighs 10lbs. What's the obsession with these anvil collectors? Why is this one worth so much? Thanks.

How many CFM's does I take to run that beast.

15 minutes ago, Frosty said:

This is a first blush speculation by a guy who'd have to research things to have a real opinion. I know they make spark "proof" cyclonic dust separators. Seen them in metal shops for decades.

I think the real trick is effectively collecting dust at the grinder without the collector becoming a hazard to safe operation.

Frosty The Lucky.

Sounds good. 

I am gonna set up a dust extraction set up. My plan is to run everything to a spark arrester. Then directly out of the shop. What size motor and blower am I gonna need to set this up? And does anybody have any recomendations for a specfic motor/blower source. I am looking for a quiet one.

Im gonna start keeping my eye out for them. They got a bunch of different attachments for them. I think they are a better value than the 2x72".

It was an AR-15 300 black out I built. Pretty sweet gun. But I have 2 more of them. And about 6 unfinished recievers.  I had around 600$ in it.

Lol No. I got a 2x72" with a 2hp motor. And I still dont think its enough grinder.

Check out this 3x132" beast i got with 10 belts. Its got a 5 hp single phase baldor motor. Wired with a welder plug on it. Its mounted on a 1" plate steel with heavy duty casters. Traded a gun for it. 

8 hours ago, rhitee93 said:

Just to give you a data point on your costs, I am nearing completion on a 40-ton dual cylinder press.  This will be powered with a two stage pump that is 22/7GPM using a 14hp Brigs engine.

I purchased everything new

I had the large structural steel members machined at a local shop to the tune of about $500 (They supplied the steel)

My total cost at this point is close to $2k.  I think with some economies of scale and clever buying, your price point is pretty close.

This is where I am today...

 

Are you using 4" or 5" cylinders? And what thickness of angle are you using?

7 minutes ago, Derek Melton said:

Those questions are still being tossed around right now. Personally I don't want to make anything less than 30 tons and favor the H frame for strength. 

I have been thinking of building one like the one pictured above. Except Batson's plans call for 1/4" angle but I was thinking about going 1/2 " angle .With 2 5" cylinders. That will get you in the 50 Ton range. 10hp motor 28 gym 2 stage pump. I am in the process of getting a rotary phase converter set up in my shop so I can use a 3 phase motor. And I am also getting some more 3 phase equipment.

I have been thinking of putting one together. What tonnage are you shooting for? And what frame design? There are many ways to build one of these.  Jackson MS is not too far from SE Missouri.

Yes. I do. But I found a better hammer. Going a different route. Same destination but different route.

Oh yeah. Ive been looking at those for a while.