Where would a beginner (without bags of money laying around all over the place) do best in finding some hammers and tongs to get started with? ebay seems to kill you on shipping costs, due to the weight of things. Can anyone give a rough idea of what one would expect to pay for hammers in the 3lb-5lb range, and tongs? Also if there are "bare necessity" types of hammers, hardy hole tools, and tongs one should pursue to start with I'd appreciate the tips. We plan to focus on knife making and perhaps some simple projects like hooks and camping gear.