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Good luck Thomas knee power headed your way, read a lot of books.  Dale

On ‎3‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 6:54 AM, OliverE said:

I have just started playing around with my forge and anvil

You might NOT want to have your wife hear "Playing" in conversations about you hobby as it will become "Oh he is out playing around in his shop" never hear the end of it. 

it would appear this is one of those subjects where there are plenty of ideas & opinions along with experiences to make each one correct in their users  minds and for each ones' applications weather it is 10 nails or 7 or 4 or glue to be all correct as long as the shoes stays on and the horse goes straight down the road/trail.  

There is the old story about "for the want of a nail a shoe is lost, for the want of the shoe a horse was lost, for want of a horse a soldier was lost, etc. till the war was lost."  So horse shoe nails are not and were not a trivial matter. 

Just My Opinion!

Hopefully  someone is going to save these

14 hours ago, Dylan Sawicki said:

Yes I have and I plan on taking a class sometime, but I called them and you have to be 16.

There is always some specific age we are waiting to attain, 16, 18, 21, (in my day draft age) 25 for lower insurance?, Middle age, retirement age and POFF Old Age!  In my mind the difference between 16 & 21 was 10 yrs., and between middle age and Old age was 10 days. 

As my mom said keep busy learning as you wait, Welcome to IFI lots of reading here.  Sounds like you have got a good start keep with it as it is a lifetime of learning.  NEB's spring fling looks like it should be great and 2 of the demonstrators started young working with their Dad. 

Enjoy

3 hours ago, Glenn said:

Austere, try eating with the off hand, just a matter of training.  (grin)

I had my right shoulder repaired a few yrs. ago and being right handed I discovered fast there were a number of daily functions that didn't work  well using my left arm including eating.  I had had the left shoulder done 3 months before and breezed through that with little problems.   

I feel you make do with what you have if this is it this is it.  If you want to restore antique furniture this is not it,  I used one for a number of winter to make heavy duty horse draw 2 wheel carts with a lady it was a pain changing over the items but room, experience and $ said this was it.  The carts I still see in use today and are looked for at auctions so they must have been half way decently built.    That was 40+ yrs. ago.

On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 4:01 PM, Hammerfall said:

Is it heavy enough frame wise to work if I altered it? 

Not from my experiences with these presses.  they were made for a slow movement steady pressure use not a pound pound use.  Look at the pins holding the table not hard to bend them in my book.  You can sink a lot of money in this and still have nothing.  Just me.

I got the one my Dad bought in the late '50s setting in my barn waiting for a spot in my shop.  Heavy and well built.  Have used one a lot in the past for wood working takes a while to change over items. Really slows down a project.   I question if the sander would take a lot of metal working but don't know. 

1 hour ago, JHCC said:

What's the old saying? Vermonters don't buy antiques -- they sell them!

beat them to death then sell them as antiques, down country folks never know the difference.  We can make anything into an  antique take an old piece of furniture shoot it a few times with a black power gun hit it a few times with a hatchet and tell them it's from the French & Indian war, Revolutionary War or from the St. Albans raid during the civil war.  With the modern science a bit harder to get away with now.  " Family history says My great, great,  great grandmother  pushed it against the door to hold the Indians out during a raid in 1755."    

I've made many coat racks as you say with both used and new RR spikes over a number of years, from 2 to 12 spikes and until today never thought about pictures?  I use 5/4 x 4 #1 pine sanded and stained a med. dark poly stain 6-8 coats steel wool between coats 

anyways I tried distressing once and pounded the thing with an old chain looked ok but never did it another.   I never build on speck and usually for friends and relatives for very special occasions.   

clincher for farriers to clinch over the nails and crowbar what they are made of ? 

I'm planning to, Mother's day Sun. might throw me a curve ball.  Thought I would get this out there for others to  see.  Would love to  visit your shop. 

There will be the "Annual Hammer In" at the Lake Champlain Maritime Mus. Vergennes, VT on May 13 2017. Registration required, 802-475-2022

$40 including Lunch.  Robert Bordeaux Demonstrator.  Knife Maker, Heat treating on the Menu.  You can get more info  at LCMM.com or Lake Champlain Maritime Mus. on the Web.  Always a great day well worth the money esp, with lunch. 

Blacksmithing injuries have been mostly hot hand,  hot sparks inside top of boot.  Day job, trigger thumb resulting in operation, Herniated Disc from unloading 5 gal pails of motor oil and slipping on snow behind the truck operation resulting, meniscus tear in knee from sliding under tractor from ice in step, operation resulting.  That was the worse as 8 guys were watching when I did it in front of our little country store and they all ran over laughing to help me up.  Day Job ones were from things I did everyday but  not as careful as being in the shop knowing everything in there wants to burn you, cut you, or fall on you.

I can see it being used by a certain crowd of horse owners (notice owners not horseman) that firmly believe that nailing a shoe on Hurts the Horse.  Been in on those conversations for 55+ years now.  Can see some farriers cashing in on this.  Also will cut out the need for Hot Shoeing, which many  will  tell you, causes Excruciating Pain to the Horse.   

Still love the porch, nice shop

I would  have a hard time using glue myself.  I will be doing some more research on this.  Someone said they heard it was being used on Aluminum race shoes?? 

3 hours ago, seldom (dick renker) said:

not too many "horsemen" around.

Soooooo True. 

Seldom    Like about everything else today the horse world has changed unbelievable in the last 20 yrs.  Far too  many people with horses that know nothing about a horse only the recent books and new theories and in a lot of cases more money than knowledge.  This family of farriers are all in their late 30s and up to mid 50s now and good enough so they  pick their customers to keep and have sent the "Polish the hoof" bunch down the road to someone else.       Can't wait to see a glued shoe. 

I Had breakfast today with my former Farrier, we no longer have horses, I asked him Glenn's question and learned a few new things.  He comes from a long line of Farriers, 3 generations I know of with uncles and now cousins all in the mix.  He said he has started using 6 nails in resent yrs. along with smaller size nails and two of his cousins have found that with side and toe clips they only need 4!  Now these guys do a lot of endurance horses some wear through shoes in 3 weeks!  they also do a lot of 3 day event horses doing  cross country courses that are unbelievable.  They Have had no problems with these. 

Now just to add things to the mix in their Farrier Course I was told Cornell University is teaching their students  Gluing on shoes!  First I've heard of this.  He also says that just because keg shoes come with 8-10 holes doesn't mean  that many nails are needed or desired  just it gives ability to have a good spot to get  nails into a bad foot.  From this I would say there may not be a complete answer to Glenn's question.       

If these were burned completely the springs and axles most likely will be soft and easy to bend by hand.  We had a barn fire once and everything we pulled out like axes and iron bars or any  tools we never could use for anything afterwards. They would twist like a pretzel and bend double.  Fun to watch but a pain at the time. 

Sorry to here about your loss in the fires.   

1 hour ago, JHCC said:

Never was a tater like the Idaho spud.

can see you never have eaten a Green Mountain Potato,  John.

most of my limericks are left from the Army and  not printable here.   

Fabulous story Frank.  People have little knowledge of these things or what made the war arrive at a successful end (for us at least).  I met a man a few yrs. ago who like my father was a Combat Glider Pilot but he flew into and out of Burma being towed on a 300' rope over the hub carrying among other things Army Mules into hand made landing strips then clean out the glider and load wounded back in, he would then stretch his 300'  tow line between to tall poles and a C-47 would fly over with a hook on the tail like the landing hook on Navy planes snatch onto the tow line and yank him into the air and tow him back to India.  These strips were cleared by the local Chinese peasants to help the war effort. If caught by the invading Japanese these peasants were slaughtered  for helping the Allies.  Most of these stories are being lost from neglect of our higher education facilities who can't be bothered with history older than today. 

Thanks for you repeating this Frank.

I had songs coming and going all the time then discovered I had my son's ear phones with a  radio in it  on  Usually any songs in my mind  gets replaced when I hit my thumb  or something.it gets replaced immediately by something less charitable.  .