evfreek Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Hi. If this post is not appropriate for the welding category, feel free to move it. I got a cutting torch tip along with a couple of cutting attachments on Ebay. It is Uniweld type 3 (Victor medium) 00 size. Unfortunately, it is acetylene, and I only have oxypropane. I used to have a B tank, but I was worried about explosion hazard, and anyway, I got sick of paying high refill prices. Could only sell it for $40 on Craigslist, but I am sure that the replacement cost would be higher. I hate paying nearly $50 for a refill. I heard that there are only 2 places in Northern California where acetylene tanks are refilled, and that is why it is so high. No way am I paying that, especially in this bad economy. So, when I needed to cut some 3/16" fab drops, I looked at the tip and wished it was a propane tip. I went to the welding store and asked for the propane version. It was a Victor, special order and $29. No way I am paying that, especially in this bad economy. I complained a little about the price, noting it was not their fault. Then, I remembered that I had one of those silly Bernzomatic oxy-mapp torches which someone figured out wasted money for the non-refillable oxygen and ended up selling for $2 at a garage sale. I figured that it would come in useful, and this was the day! I also had a couple of yellow disposable MAPP tanks that I had donated to a CBA workshop, but they came back to me half full. Now, I heard that MAPP gas would fire an acetylene one piece tip. In fact, some MAPP tips are one piece. So, I asked for an adapter from B left to hose barb. They did not have that, but they had a B left to 1/4 MPT. They told me that I could go to Home Depot and get an adapter to connect to tubing. Home Depot did not have a 1/4 FPT to hose barb. They had the male fitting, so I would have to buy a 1/4 FPT to 1/4 FPT coupler. This meant three stupid :mad: adapters to mate the B left to my Bernzomatic hose. Two adapters at Home Depot costed $5. No way am I paying that, especially in this bad economy. I decided to go home and sulk for awhile, and think of my over-consumptive ways. Shortly later, I noticed a bicycle pump fitting that rotted off an old bicycle pump that I bought at a garage sale. The brass barb was still good . I pressed it out and used silver bearing solder to solder it to the welding adapter. It worked just great, as did the cutting tip on MAPP gas. I was good to go on the thin stuff. In the attached picture, you can see the old acetylene tip, now doing duty as a MAPP tip, the soldered adapter, and the pressed out schrader fitting that is no longer needed (might be able to use this somewhere). As I thought this adventure over, I realized that even a tight fellow like me (still working my way up to Thomas, a guy can hope, can't he?), can cut back a lot. This is scary. There is still a lot of fat in the system. If I can cut my expenses by 5-10%, a 3.8% cut is nothing. It is only the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlarkin Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I picked up a 3 piece set of propane tips on ebay for $16. A #1, #3, and a #4. All new still in the Victor sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Sounds like you had some fun, as long as you're not in a hurry. Creativity is lacking do to Buy It Now. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azIRonSmith Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 All this cost you was 4-6 hours time and maybe $15 worth of gas? This to save the $29 tip or $5 worth of adapters? ;-P Just kidding... I know that sometimes I spend more money/time on saving money than it was worth but darn it, I can say I did it on the cheap. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evfreek Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hi fellas. Lot's of good points. I checked on Ebay as well. The problem with my situation is that I have the medium handle (type 3). It is harder to find genuine tips for LP. There is an Ebay store selling Chinese knock-off tips for $5 with low shipping, but they do not sell 00 size. I would really rather not buy the imported tips. As for the waste of time and gas, azIronSmith, you are exactly right! That is kind of my point. I am old enough to remember the Great Depression, and a lot of people did silly things for reason of the economy. It was the same I heard, but probably worse, for the German depression which had terrible worldwide consequences. Anyway, I don't think that I wasted gas (gasoline ), since I went to a meeting a block away from the welding store, and I needed that adapter anyway. The other trips were "on the way" trips. But I did waste a lot of time. My rationale is, who cares, my craft and commission income has crashed into oblivion in the last year. So, I can afford to do silly and somewhat unproductive things with my time, since there is no money coming in anyway. That is how economies crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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