SwissSmith Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Been looking on the forum and haven’t seen much info or pictures about this blower that I think is pretty old. My thought is that it is a “transition” piece as technology was making bellows obsolete. But some didn’t want to crank a blower, they wanted to pump like a bellows?? A theory, but unproved so far. Any way it was given to me as a treasured gift from a guy whose great grand pappy used it. I want to honor my buddy’s grand dad and restore it. And if it throws some good air out and is enjoyable to pump, maybe put into my new smithy. I’m thinking it would be quieter than my Champion 400. But don’t know about CFM produced. Looking for pictures of restored ones, info, patent drawings, help, links etc. towards rebuilding. Got some strange exterior barrel like bearings, missing one. And I am completely clueless as to how the leather belt that works from the handle works. The large flywheel seems easy enough. I’ve worked with leather enough to make the required belts once I get them figured out. I’m in Northern CA if ya know anyone that may want to work on this or help me I sure would appreciate it. Thanks for any replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Greetings Swiss, I just posted a picture of one I restored .. “Champion 1898 blower”. The picture shows the belt arrangement which would be the same as yours. Restorations are a challenge and many parts have to be manufactured.. Good luck and have fun Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Those are great blowers and work very well for a full sized forge.. I love the looks of these and also the old belt driven ones that are like 5ft tall with the big cast iron wheels.. if I had a more vintage shop, I'd probably have 1 of each, Bellows, hand lever, and hand crank.. I think they are so neat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissSmith Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Hi Jim, Thanks for your reply. I would love to see your photo of the restoration. Your heading says “Champion blower 1898” but we’re talking about the Canedy Otto Western Chief belt driven with a handle right? I found a website that shows an original factory Canedy Otto catalog circa turn of the century. The blower is shown in the catalog on pg. 81 or 84. That is gonna help. Site is: bamsite.org Mine appears pretty complete except missing a “barrel” shaft oil fed bearing. Hoping the internal clutch is intact. How does your completed blower work? Does it move good quality of air? Does handle/belt drive operate in a way that would lend itself to daily forging? I don’t want all show and no go if I spend the effort to restore. Lots of questions I know, so thanks for any you can answer. Finally, where do I go to find your posted photo of restored blower? I’m new to this forum. Thanks Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Greetings Bob, Until you are familiar with this site I will post the pictures . Lots of questions . The pictures will show the belt arrangement and yes it is a great blower .. Lots of air.. When you find my previous post others have chimed in with comments. Start your restoration and post questions as you go.. Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 19 hours ago, SwissSmith said: I’m in Northern CA Welcome to IFI, we won't remember your location after leaving this post, hence the suggestion to edit your profile to show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ede Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I have some pictures to share with you Swiss Smith. The one in the photo is a Model B Western Chief Steel Frame Blower, which has a 16 1/2" fan that produces lots of air. The Canedy Otto are known as quiet blowers as they used bushings compared to Champion that used ball bearings. I need to make a new belt for this one as I have on a temporary belt currently. What model number does yours have? The B model has an oval outlet whereas the E appears to have a round outlet--which looks like yours and has a 14 1/2" fan. Interesting theory about this being a transition piece of technology. I would like to hear more discussion or see some old blacksmith journal articles relating to this technology. A37C34C7-6C55-4A97-9993-F9998E0ED86A.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissSmith Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Ede,Jim,JLP, Thanks for the responses and esp. the photos. Ede, my Canady Otto is a model E. Found an old turn of the century Canady Otto calalog that has great drawings if anyone else needs, let me know. The model E sold for $23. Anybody have any of the original brass barrel bushings around, I only need two. Thanks again. Starting my restoration this winter, good indoor project. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The brass or bronze bushings are easy enough to make if one owns a lathe.. Sorry but don't have the bushings outright but do own a lathe.. I would imagine someone near you or someone in one of the Blacksmithing groups in CA would be able to help.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissSmith Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Thanks JLP, I’ll start checking around locally. Hopefully, I’ll come up with someone. If I strike out, are you interested? They’re small enough, would be easy enough to mail. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Would love to.. Only problem is finding the extra time to do anything.. If you send the materials with the bushings and don't mind waiting a month or so I certainly would be happy to.. YOU have a great looking shop by the way.. Refflinghaus anvil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 If you have a shop near you that rebuilds starters, check with them they usually have drawers full of bronze bushings. I've made bushings out of copper pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuffnJunk2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 How is your restoration going? I am also in Northern California and several years ago picked up a forge just like yours at an estate sale. I am ready to start restoring it. Seems to be pretty complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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