Frosty Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 22 hours ago, TFT said: Hey frosty no big deal i am kinda just some guy but i figured id take the weight off you non-rookies and i shouldnt have im sorry but im terrible with words and description terms on the flame could you show us a pic of your t burner, in action, cause i made two(different tee sizes and they have a mount that holds on to a sliding brass tube) and it didnt seem much different from my others, ill have to look more closely i suppose and i know its a bad thing to modify your design but i figured i could tune it quicker Sorry, I don't have a pic that directly compares to yours. I don't run a burner outside a forge so aren't going to look the same regardless of how they're tuned. This is my silly too large shop forge running all four burners, probably in a test. I've only ever fired all four at once when 3-4 guys were working in it at once. It only has about 1 1/2" of Kaowool in the lid and the flames are extending maybe that far into the forge. That's what my burners look like and that is maybe after 4-5 minutes of lighting it or everything in it would be yellow. Looking again, this has to be a test run, all the soft fire bricks in the sidewalls are intact, after 3 or so firings soft brick starts crumbling, they are just not intended for this much heat. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose65 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 No Frosty you were not unclear. I just ran out of time at the shop today. I just wanted to show you was on the path for the t burner's build. Yes I understand I have to fine tune ne the distance of the tip in the opening as well as cut down my mixing tube. Thanks for the advice. We see how it goes by We'd or Thursday when I get a chance to work on it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Frosty, directly compare? Not trying to be rude or anything but i dont get it... like does each burners optimal flame look different? As in shape and color? Here i was thinking an all blue flame was what i was shooting for... boy was i wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose65 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 If I zoom in I can see Frosty's blue flames on his four burner forge. I didn't work on mine today but I really hope to get the T burners going tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Yea i can barely see them and not to the extend of being able to visually compare but ill try to get it to frostys colors and shape. But moose howd the tee burner do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Hat 66 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 On 9/4/2016 at 2:53 AM, TFT said: Without seeing the thing its gonna be hard to give advice but with that style of burner try slots instead of holes with a choke tube.... i have a burner that probably looks very similar with a bunch of holes but it was limited and i moved on to a venturi so i have made one with the slots If you look real carefully you can see all the holes behind the hammer and the pipe is like swiss cheese and the choke does nothing but reduce heat Dear moose 65 if I had your address I would make and send you a good burner for your forge . I make 3 different kinds, they all work good. the best is the forced air burner , it is wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, High Hat 66 said: Dear moose 65 if I had your address I would make and send you a good burner for your forge . I make 3 different kinds, they all work good. the best is the forced air burner , it is wicked. Whyd i get quoted for this?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose65 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 Thanks. I haven't had time to work on the burners again. Work and kids baseball. But I hope too soon. TFT does your burner work the same in the forge? From what I have experienced you cannot judge or adjust for outside vs inside the forge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Yea for what i could tell but my forge chamber was only 110ci and the flame would hit the side wall and shoot off to the side then after the firge warms up you can barely see any secondary flame except for the dragons breath... i was testing outside the forge as to not get any mixed signals And my forge is o.c. atm refer to "vertical forge question" for my next forge.... hoping to buy materials soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 When I said the flames don't compare directly I'm referring to how they behave differently in different conditions. Firing into a super heated chamber as opposed to open air. I don't even try to tune mine to run in open air so I don't really know how to compare them. I can offer an opinion about the fuel air ratio yours displays as shown but it will perform differently in the forge. I never tune a forge burner outside a forge. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Yea alright frosty ill just have to wait till i make my new forge... last night i reread kinda the same thing(not the strongest reader) in the forges101, sorry and thats why i work with numbers But that burner COULD be ok? but it being in open air doesnt mean a thing... and now im afraid to show youll the burner i am/was using but im warming up to the idea of a blown burner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Don't sweat it the important information tends to get lost when one of those long winded guys gets going. Go ahead show us the burner, it can NOT be more messed up than the first few I made and I was able to get them "working". . . . eventually. That burner certainly can, it's just a matter of tuning it for where it's going to be working. It's no big deal, honest. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFT Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Ok here it is but(this maybe my issue) my "mixing tube" is 12" i worked up to that but started with a 7-8" and i was just seeing how well it would work and ir appeared better... but i dont know whats what And thats a 303/304ss flare i think thats my cause of that yellow/orange stripe... ive read that part of the "101" thread many times and stands out because thats all i use(scrap)... so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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