saintjohnbarleycorn Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Ok so here is what is left of the #8 pound sledge, I have not weighed it yet, (But I would guess under 4 pounds) but wanted to temper it tonight, I was hoping to get some ideas on the best way or at least a good way. thanks for the help. Quote
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 I think I made a $2 hammer in the end, I don't know how it will feel after handled, so I want to make a handle and temper it and try it out and then maybe grind to get it balanced. I know its got more weight in the peen than the front which is probably a bad idea, plus its a wacky shape to boot! But I learned a lot. #1 is that I will forge the next one, as I picked up some material today that I can use. thanks for all the help. I take any suggestions as constructive criticism! :) Quote
Blacksmith Jim Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Not knowing what material it is made out of, and not having hardened and tempered hammers, I would heat it up to non-magnetic, and then oil quench it. Then shine it up so you can see colors run. Then heat up a drift real hot, and hold the hammer head on the drift through the eye. Watch the colors run out from the eye to the ends. When the ends are straw, quench in oil again... Someone who actually has experience making hammers can probably offer better advice or correct mine or what not.. Quote
rthibeau Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 As it is a factory made hammer, it is likely mid carbon. Heat to nonmagnetic, quench in water, use a torch to heat inside the eye and the side walls until the colors start to run. Quench again when the pein and face just start to turn purple. Quote
Blacksmith Jim Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 See someone that knows what they are talking about! I should just stay outta these threads :P Quote
rthibeau Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 See someone that knows what they are talking about! I should just stay outta these threads you weren't that far off RC...just a little too conservative is all....:D Quote
R Funk Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 Remember when you quench and temper to make certain the center of the hammer face is harder than the edges. This is against the physics of the standard qenching and tempering processes. I know some good hammer makers quench their hammer heads with a full stream garden hose on the center of the face, Making this the most rapidly cooled area of the hammer. If you quench the hammer in container of fluid the edges will cool most rapidly make the edges the hardest not the center of the hammer face. This is what you don't want is hard edges as they will chip. Also a stress releive (heating and very slow cooling) before heat treatment would be good and reduce chance of cracking during heatreat, although not generally absolutely required Rather one step quench and temper, I would recommend quenching and cooling the hammer to under tempering temperature and then use a toaster oven torch to accurately temper at a known temeperature. After the oven quench reheat the eye hammer to soften the eye area being careful not to overheat and soften the faces. (You don't want the eye area brittle and break) And oh by the way remember the heatreaters rule of 1 hour per inch of thickness... Really hard to do with a forge or torch As an alternate after the hardening you could heat the eye of the hammer and watch the temper colors run. This will give better control than trying to temper the hammer with the residual heat from the quenching operation. Quote
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted January 19, 2008 Author Posted January 19, 2008 If you were going to use the oven what temperature would you shoot for? Or do you have to know more about the material you are tempering. thanks for the info, I will do one of the above methods. Quote
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