Will. K. Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 "Some Recent Developements In Power Hammers" By H.F. Massey 1904 on Google Books I thought this was interesting. So far I've only looked over the section on spring hammers. Its to bad some of the figures/plates seem to be missing from both copies of it scanned on google books. In particular I'ld be interesting in seeing fig. 5 & 6 of the improved spring hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 thanks for sharing my champion is like the first hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Found a patent for the improved Massey spring hammer that shows the linkages better. GB189723749 Also a page in an old book with some diagrams. Spring Hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 i cant work out how to read it..... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Same here :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 i cant work out how to read it..... :blink: The paper and figures were links from google books. I just checked into it and google says they restrict who can view certain books by the country their IP adress comes from do to certain copyright laws or something like that. Sorry! I didn't realize they did that :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K A Willey Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 That is a pretty neat hammer pretty close to a Beaudry it would be fun to see one up close if there are still any out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 If you can't open the books a guy I work with says you maybe able to see them through a US proxy server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 it opened fine for me thanks for posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I opened it and can read it, but it eludes me as to how to print it. Can anyone help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 i guess australia and france are in "the bad books" with google! BTW i have no idea how to comprehend a U.S proxy server, let alone USE one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Woody, I had succes with free-proxy*dot*fr (just typed the url from Will on the front page 'et voila') but I don't know if you can reach it from Australia... Have a search with 'proxy usa' you should find an equivalent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I opened it and can read it, but it eludes me as to how to print it. Can anyone help? From google books you can save it as a PDF onto your computer and print it from there. Not sure if there is another way. Click on the drop down next to the gear shaped icon to find the save as PDF option. The file for the Massy paper is about 3.5 MB in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I tried to no avail. It seems to be for on line reading only. Hope I am wrong about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 I've downloaded it before so it is possible. This download link should work:http://books.google.com/books/download/Transactions_Manchester_Association_of_E.pdf?id=ROY0AAAAMAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U3fGyfv0Pf6TDMOvjpfMxlxMXv3Pg It will ask you to answer one of those jumbled up word questions to make sure your a real person and not a computer program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Sorry Will but your link doesn't work from France, so I doubt it will work from Australia, I think the 'US proxy stuff' is necessary :unsure: I didn't pay attention that even you John L in the US could not download it, that's strange, I can when passing through a US-proxy... Have a try with the link underneeth, it may not work for a long time as free-proxy dot fr allways sends me a different list of proxies for several countries...http://facebookproxie.info/surf.php?u=Oi8vYm9va3MuZ29vZ2xlLmZyL2Jvb2tzL2Rvd25sb2FkL1RyYW5zYWN0aW9uc19NYW5jaGVzdGVyX0Fzc29jaWF0aW9uX29mX0UucGRmP2lkPVJPWTBBQUFBTUFBSiZobD1mciZjYXBpZD1BRkxSRTcxbXdyMUVwdXBiQWZ6QWxrZ2szdG9IYUN6Qi05ZTY1Qi1XZGZnU2RkcHlscjVlaGlqM0lWTG1vVWFKTk1rYXEzNXJFckdSRUJCMzNzc01kZ09vM0xLRHFCS0JJdyZjb250aW51ZT1odHRwOi8vYm9va3MuZ29vZ2xlLmZyL2Jvb2tzL2Rvd25sb2FkL1RyYW5zYWN0aW9uc19NYW5jaGVzdGVyX0Fzc29jaWF0aW9uX29mX0UucGRmJTNGaWQlM0RST1kwQUFBQU1BQUolMjZobCUzRGZyJTI2b3V0cHV0JTNEcGRm&b=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 This document by Mr. Massey is a must read for all truly serious students of power hammers. It places the steam hammer near the top of the heap of all power hammers and discusses merits and flaws of most all basic styles. I have successfully printed the document using Wiil. K.'s second suggested link. Thank you Will. K. for bringing this document into view for this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 if anyone who has downloaded this book could please pm me for my email address, i REALLY would like for a copy to be sent to me!!!!! none of the links work, and i am at a loss when it comes to the proxy thing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I had success with the second address as I mentioned. Don't ask for the article title, but rather the proceedings in which is was p[rinted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 i put in the captcha letters, and it goes to an error 404 page. hence my request......... edit: i used madmikes link and it apears to have worked... fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 I've noticed that Google Books can have several copies of some books. I think there are at least two copies of this paper. One is missing a page or two so if you find you have that version you may need to try one of the other copies to read the missing pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Larson Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Wii.K., does your copy have unimpaired figures 17,18,19? Mine looks like a poor copying job with pages overlapping some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will. K. Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 I checked the copies I had already downloaded and in one the pages for the plates were totally missing and in the other they were messed up as you mentioned. Both the copies I have downloaded were digitized from University of Michigan copies. I did some more searching on google books as well and found another copy digitized from the NY public library but the pages were messed up as well. I'll keep hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron woodrow Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 every time i read it i get to the figure 17, 18 +19 part and lose concentration, because it isnt there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Buchanan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 wow!!! what a great link !!!! thanks!!..as mentioned i had probs with plates 17,18,and 19 as well a shame,but still a great resource...that 1st spring hammer seems to me to be more like a eariler spring hammer than a later one like the champion....sure they work the same way but in the plate pictured that hammer was built far heavier like a williams and white , belden, or a scranton....champion,the perfect ,star, the boss(and others i'm sure) where all lighter forms of those hammers...ive owned both a novelty ironworks boss 25lb and a champion no1 65lb great hammers !!! no doubt!!! love them!! so if you like/ love that style find a ww or scranton and prepare to be amazed!!!......... btw is anyone out there running any niles air /steam hammers in the 300 to 400lb range ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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