Wesley Chambers Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 OK! So no name that I have found on any part, no numbers either. Unloaded it this morning Ky stile, barefoot and shirtless and solo, also known as the stubborn stupid way. Worked it off the truck with a chain wench and four ratchet straps staggered for a slow release, set her down light as a feather After some sheet and bar rolling shes parked in a temp spot in the backyard next to the power closet so I can attempt to get a motor on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamey Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 very interesting, i would figure out a way to get more mass under the anvil. reminds me of one of the Japanese bladesmithing hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 My hope it to buy the base of another MUCH larger power hammer I found in a scrap yard, if I had to guess from memory it looks like the complete base of a little giant of 100# or more, die still in place, the spine that should have the rest of the hammer was broken off and no where to be found so I hope to get it for less than 200 just in scrap steel prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamey Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 good deal, looking fwd. to seeing it in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Blarg! The motor controller I have is pooped out with no useable control so now I have a unique motor I cannot use and nothing to replace it with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 That was my thought also = it does look like the Japanese bladesmithing hammers I think I got it resized had to try to remember how. This was Shawn Lovells hammer I have a few more pics if you want to see how it was set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 The seller remembered seeing this type of hammer in the old Henry Ford workshops in old tv stories, bolted to 16" posts up and down the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 If you got 4 power diodes and fed output from a whetstone bridge into the motor you would have 240v on a voltage controlled DC motor, so about 2750 rpm. No adjustment on the output though, so you would have to adjust the speed as needed with belts. Running on 120 would halve the speed again. I don't think you would get 3hp. Thinking out loud here. Something similar is probably inside that box already. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Looks like a fun project! Funny, the dovetails are 90º to each other. There are a couple "kit" hammers like that in "Pounding Out The Profits" made for fastening to a post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootnampa Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I kinda like the looks of it. I think it might be good when you get it going! It looks homemade but thoughtfully done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 well I'm up for a trade for this dc motor if anyone has something I can use lol! looks like I need to wait till next week to find something usable~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhartironwerks Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Clinton, Shawn purchased the hammer from Arnon Kartmazov, bladesmith, in Portland,OR. He imported it from Japan. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 read the book pounding out profits there are post hammer in there you may be able to figure out the brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Waiting on my ILL right now, no copy in Kentucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 80240689a7d410741d631035ba2833e4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Dang, guess you can't do a FB video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 With how fast it is going, that may be enough motor. How do you tell if a hammer is underpowered for its mass? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sorry Grant I posted the youtube vid in the other post, low rez youtube vid http://youtu.be/iGCzkcGe5QY were you hoping to embed? Phil, I hope your right it sounds/looks good too me but as its my first and only hammer I have no idea if it is correct, or how to figure out the correct power~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkrankow Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I am not even knowledgeable, I just read a whole bunch of stuff. the Bradly helve manual is saying that the 25# and 40# hammer get 3hp, but the helve hammer is also moving more mass with the wooden beam. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 With how fast it is going, that may be enough motor. How do you tell if a hammer is underpowered for its mass? Phil Measure how many amps the motor pulling under full load (FLA) . FLA is typically stamped on the motor tag. Or if you can't put your hand on it after running it for say 5-10 min you're overheating.......If you can smell it or see smoke it's a no brainer.............The motor could be overheating because the machine is not running freely or isn't lubed........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 well the first problem I see is that it runs better one direction than the other.. but this motor is not reversible.. so I gotta keep that in mind for the next one, if only my house had 3phase lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Is your idler on the inside pushing outward? Looks like it's sticky in the guides too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinton Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Did you use the jack shaft, or hook it up direct? The rpms look pretty close to where you want to be, I bet a 1 hp motor would do you fine, you should be able to find a used one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Chambers Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 8aaabb9ee542acb3855a694d48358e16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakedanvil - Grant Sarver Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Kinda like these: Also notice the idler is on the outside pushing inward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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