Damascus Mike

I have been to New Zealand many times, the south Island just as many, been through Westport just about as often. They have a hardware store there that I do not doubt sell small ball pein hammers. Probably even have a choice of cheap chinese ones for a couple of $NZ, through to name brands for a few more dollars. Why would you want to make one?????? I guess I'm saying make your hammer out of a nickel bronze alloy, readily available in your pocket, the big ones are $2, the small ones are $1.

Mike,

I don't know of a list like that so I just do a Google search for each code as it comes up

Cheers

yes i have made those tools from ships engine bolts but we call them square and round punches ,as to the designations of steel or wateva you call it im not asking about one kind of steel like 1045 what i wanted to get is something where i can learn ALL these codes(eg:1045,1080,15N20) so that i know them of by heart,i have already read throught and leant the hammer control and moving metal to where and how you want it,and all i wanted to know was what you would suggest as a good metal for it.

i just did a search and nothing comes up on these codes,its so frustrating when i cant find the right stuff and then people tell me im not looking good enough but i truely do not have a clue what to be searching for,if somebody could just tell me the name of this "Steel table" i will be so greatefull.

sorry but i dont know what 4140,5160 or 1045 is.

Hi there guys its DM,
ive got a question for people who have ever made hammers or know alot about them,anyway my question is what is a common metal to use when making a ball pein hammer?thanx DM

well the knife is finally done and i have used a 2 pot mix epoxy rezin to glue the blade in place and its done,ill post pics once i have new batteries 4 my camera.

I also found that making a small sword about 100mm in length helps alot more that you think when practicing to make swords

haha thanx

No i must thanx you 4 leading me in the true direction.

You know what?your right i must go slow and prepare it over a long time,in fact after i read ur post i realized that i dont haveenough materials to built it,im confident enuogh to do this task but i havent planned it out on paper or in my head and to top it all i dont even have 90% of the materials needed, i think ill take your advise and leave it for when ive planned it out more,im sorry but i just have a problem where if i see something i like and i know i can build it, i start asking questions and start to get all exited about making the object,and all the excitement floods my mind and takes away all the main parts i need to know,and i end up with something like this.please guys in the future if i ask you something about biulding something please ask me if i have planned it all out and if i have all the right materials and even ask 4 a pic of them,if you want to that is,any way thanx 4 all the help and good direction.

Mike.

Ok i get where you coming from and im sorry if i put out an incorrect message to you but i seriously am being taught all these joining processes,im not the best welder in the world but im also not the worst,i believe my welding skills are good enough for me to start this task of making a press,and as for my tutor wanting me to figure it out myself what he meant was that i mustnt ask him 4 help and that i must go to other people on internet or in person to get help on this task.

Ps: im 18 but i have ADHD

Right well you people call it that and we just do it so New Zealand is oviously different than america or where ever your from.i dont need to know fansy words like sub-con to weld properly

No, that's quite enough to tell us just how much you know.

The question has a one word answer.

Frosty

Right.

Here's an easy question so you can show me and everybody else you aren't just blowing smoke.

What process you're going to use to weld up your press frame?

Frosty

Mike - With all due respect - You've started a couple threads on presses - that's all fine. When people read your posts, we have to wonder, as you post it apears that you what info on building a press for real dirt cheap. I'd like to do that also. Unfortunately for the most part that is not readily done without having some good luck and connections to get mat'ls for a proper setup that will handle the tonnage for forging. I have priced the components for a 25ton press and even getting some parts from surplus dealers, it will still cost about $1,000.00 - $1,500.00 just for the mechanical parts - not including the steel and my labor and mat'ls to put it all together. This is a major investment, even if you can get a deal on the parts. Please don't take this lightly - not knowing anything about presses before making and using one is dangerous. Now you say your in an engineering class... with that resource of info from your instructor and books and maybe some more research - you can find the answers to your questions that you've posted here. It's hard to give you information if it sounds as if youv'e never seen one/operated one/or know what they do. Ask your insructor to help you with it and maybe it can be your class project?? - JK

Of course it isn't making sense to you Mike. YOU wanted to make a press and were asked if you know how to weld well enough to do it safely. You answered with a boast list of joining processes you read somewhere and think makes you sound like you know what you're talking about. But a simple straight forward question STILL doesn't make any sense to you.

That's because you don't know enough and are unwilling to listen to good advice. Ask questions by the truckload sure but pay attention to the answers? No.

When you're old enough I suggest taking a class or two. Till then dream on.

Frosty

Ok this is seriously not making sense, the question what about making an electril press and then i changed my mind and decided im gana built a jack press, now where did welding come into the story???????

Why Mike?

If you have to ask you don't know enough about welding to try building something as serious as a press.

Frosty

Arc welding,Mig welding,gas welding,soldering and still trying to get forge welding right.why?

Watch this video and you will see what i mean, i do not want a casting foundry i just wanna know if its possible to use as a furnace while still being a gas forge YouTube - Cable forging 002

Ok,can it still be used as a foundry and a forge?

I know its a bit off the subject of gas forging but is it a bad idea to put brass in a crucible and melt it in the gas forge?If yes how can i prevent it?

Any more tips to make my press beter or faster before i start building it

Just make sure that you build the frame twice as strong as you think it needs to be. If youve no experience with presses you probably cant get you head around just how much energy is stored up in the press frame. It can go bang very easily.

When i first started my smithing i went with my gut and i made a sword from mild steel on my first day i ever used a forge and that was about 4 months ago and now when i look at it,it reminds me of how far i have come and how much beter i am at it,if you feel you wanna give it a try just for fun id suggest using mild steel or a soft easy to work metal and then the next sword you make can be one thats a bit stronger than mild and so on.And in a few months time you go look in your garage and find that old sword and just examine it and you will see what i mean.good luck and i hope it all works out for you.

you could also go to the local knife shop if there is one and ask them.