otto

6 hours ago, Steve Sells said:

At first you said no Hydrocarbons, which is not the same as non pertol that you just referred too

Yes I misspoke I meant petroleum based hydrocarbons 

The fact that industry is making non petroleum based quenching fluids for improved worker safety makes me think that oil based quenching fluids can effect you in a bad way. One msds I checked states " may cause respiratory or other pulmonary effects following repeated inhalation". Now that being said I work in a refinery and huff a lot of oil fumes and mist on a daily basis.  I don't like adding to it at home.  But judging from some of the responses I sound like a know nothing crackpot. 

Thanks stormcrow I do like the canola oil for the lack of hydrocarbons 

Thanks

that seems to be 22  cenastokes @40 deg. C.  I will see if I can covert to kinamatic for reference 

And sorry I put it in the sword section because that is what I am working on. Figured go to the source for info. 

Centistokes and kinamatic is basically same. 

Hello 

i am upgrading my 25" quench tank to a much bigger 50" tank. I have been using veggie oil with some atf to try to keep the flames down.  I have had good results with this combo. I have broken a few blades and found a nice small crystalline structure.  But going to the new tank I was thinking about upgrading to a actual proper quench oil. But before I buy 15 gallons of the stuff (not cheep). I was wondering what most folks are using here.  I have looked at the stickies under sword, knife and heat treatment they usually just say oil.  Now being I work in a refinery I have a little knowledge about oil (very little). The research I have done so far shows a wide spread in viscosity for quenchent oil.  I will list below. All will be normalized at 40 deg c /104 deg f.  And shown in kinamatic viscosity for reference

10% brine - .85

isodur 160 - 10

isomax 166 - 12.5

chevron 70 - 16.5

isodur 220 - 19

isorapid 227 - 24

hydrolic oil - 30

vegetable oil- 34

trans (atf) - 35.5

isorapid 459 - 49

sae 30 - 88 

so I found a great spread on quench fluid viscosity and added some of the other things people seem to quench with.  I know quench oil is made from a base oil with a anti- oxidation addictive. I am tempted to stay with the veggie oil as I know it well. The real question is how many folks around here are using quenching oil verses something else.  Hopefully I have done enough research on my own so I don't get yelled at for asking questions

Regards

otto

Wow, That's an amazing looking blade.  What is the finish on the blade?

Looks like that beast would cut through just about anything. Nice work 

On December 27, 2015 at 0:15 PM, Stormcrow said:

Hewing spear/glaive?  Pretty cool!  Think I'd put a cordwrap on it for comfort.

I was thinking the same thing.  I may change it to a solid color. 

On December 28, 2015 at 11:00 AM, latticino said:

Sheesh, hope you have a power hammer or a striker with some serious stamina.

No I don't. Let me tell you swinging a 10 pound hammer and holding the stock kicked my butt

 I was thinking light cutlass or wakizashi type blades.  Not sure how the hilt would evolve single handed I would think.  

I like the what if part of this.  I would think that if swords stayed in fashion a short slashing blade would evolve. Easy to carry in cars and around busy towns. 

That's a good looking chopper

That looks great.  I have been thinking of building something that size.  How does it work on 1/4" stock?   I mostly do knives and small stuff and have been looking at hydrolic presses but think the speed of a power hammer would be better.  

 Yeah after I finished it I thought it would have been handy on my last boar hunt. 

Haha.  I suppose so. 

Looks good.  I got some scout 2 springs that need to become something 

Very nice blade

Finished a new toy yesterday. Not sure what to call it but it's a beast.  Forged it out of a leaf spring.  My daughter loves it, she may try to snag it for herself. 

The horseradish patina is easy.  I do it on some of the knifes I make.   You polish the steel up a bit then you dab the horseradish on the bare steel.  Leave it on for 10 minutes wash it off with water.  Do this a few times.  I usually do it 4 to 5 times for a knife. It will give a dark patina like an old carbon steel kitchen knife. I read about it in the 50$ knife shop book.  He also said he uses mustard.  I have not tried the mustard myself though.  

I like to use horseradish to patina blade.  Seems to not rust so far.  

That is very cool love the bolster. 

Very cool. I like the skate wheels. I am almost ready to build one myself. Soon hopefully

That's very nice. I heard they could break an anvil in a sandbox. We got millwrights that can do the same

I just saw the movie this weekend. Nice likeness looks good.

Thanks for the kind words. At hay river, it is a left hand holster when I drew the pattern on the leather I put it on the wrong side. Was trying for a a right hand holster. Luckily I have a second peacemaker that still needs a holster

Here is a few more pics