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Dragons lair

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  1. As everyone told Ralphie, you'll shoot your eye out. But seriously, I don't think it's a good idea.

    The whole post is serious.Back in the 60s a friend and I played with cannons and rusty froze up sat nite specials.
    Buddy found a rusty 44 bulldog in of all places RR tracks. oiled sanded and scraped that thing. Finally tied it to a tree and pulled the cord. bang then again bang. Cool untied it aimed at a can and BOOM. Most of his right hand and right eye went with the gun. Do ya really want to start out with a rusty spike? On another note yes ya can blow up a blackpowder barrel. Try forging with no depth perception holding hammer with thumb and pinky. I only had to wear a patch for a week and its a bi h. Just saying be careful cause ya may be like my buddy and me(bullet proof) atleast back then. Don't ask a blacksmith gun questions or a gunsmith forging questions

  2. This is just a guess, but I'd say they're made from some kind of steel. :D

    Sometimes when stuff is free, you get what you pay for. Sometimes you get a better deal than that. If you got a BUNCH of it, you can experiment with heat treatment and still have enough to make tools out of.

    Ok here's one for ya. Ordered in a 8" round bar for a coustomers project.After cutting, machining and welding.OOps sent leaded bar, 200 pieces had to be recalled. Know what ya need and what they sent.
    Ken.

  3. It looks British and it looks old. I agree that the table hole came later, but for what reason?

    http://www.turleyforge.com Granddaddy of Blacksmith Schools

    Frank I have to agree with the best answer. As for why. Its personal preferance. Some drive Chev some Ford or whatever. Some vote one party or the other. The most honest answer I get from those is "Cause my daddy and grandpdad did" We have members who won't have any thing but a Euro or Fisher or Hay Budden. "For what reason"? Coal gas or induction? Mechanical or air hammer? German,Swedish,Hofi or ballpein hammer? Ours is not to reason why it's just to hammer till we die.
    Ken.

  4. I would say to go with the Brent Bailey, he does such clean work. Look at the eyes on some of the other hammers they fill them with goo (not what I look for in a hammer) I want a handle that fits

    Just a thought. How much of your car/truck is goo/glued together? How about your house? Ever had a fitted wedged handle fail? Took a triple wedged soaked hammer to school once. Another student borrowed it. 2nd heat head flew off.
    My gooed handles are still tight and shock mounted. My wedged handles have all been re done atleast twice in the same time.(Hate it when the go devil head launchs on the up stroke)
    Ken.

  5. Thanks for the input all. If I can't get a Hofi I will go with BB.

    The goo is a type glue. Here's a post from Hofi from a different thread about wheather to wedge or not:

    The glue that I am useing to hendle the hammer is SIKAFLES 11 FC AND I ONLY glue THE HANDLES AND NEVER WEDGE.
    I glued already hundreds of hammers in many sizes ans none of them went loos.
    the hammer eye is having a duble taperd cone (x) to the middle of the eye 3 degrees.
    on the handle on the part that goes into the eye I grind surretions all around that hold the glue much better.
    beffor smearing the glue in the eye I clean the eye with thinner to take away any oily remanents for better glueing
    Hofi

    Just a small update. It is sikaflex 11 FC
    Ken
  6. Alright, My welding shop/smithy is rough sawn siding with paneling inside. Spray foam(fire retardent) inside. Metal roof. Weld and run a gasser inside. (with gas and carbon monixcide Detectors) inside. Yehh they went off today.
    Too much OA/ACT brazing. OPEN THE DOORS AND VENT. It's a bitch to open the doors when it's in the 40s outside
    and 70s inside. But it's better than being DAID.
    Ken.

  7. Here is the quiz. Can ya take 2 12 inch pieces of 1/2 X 4 HRS and forge weld it into a 24 1/4 piece of 1/2X4?
    How long to cut out 10,000 inches of 1/4" letters with a chisel? A power hammer can and does 200 BPM with a 50lb hammer. Can you? Do any one here really belive if offered to an 1800s smith any of the modern tools they would refuse? I see it every day " coal forges add carbon to RR spikes gas forges do not" and "RR spikes make the best knives as they are high carbon". Why do we hunt with a 300 win mag insted of a .32 or .45 cal front loader?
    Use what ya got and are good with. An acre with a sythe or a diesel tractor upto to ya all. I hammer when I can
    and modern when its best.
    Ken.


  8. Not quite true, Jake. It's absolutely true that there's tremendous variety in the composition and properties of WI; it took me several years (and playing with WI, some of which I eventually realized would get quite hard in water, even though I had read that WI was "nearly pure iron" -- what a bunch of BS) to figure this out. But there is such a thing as wrought iron -- a material that's distinguishable from steel in due to the presence of significant amounts of silica slag stringers throughout the iron (an artifact of the manufacturing process), which give it some interesting properties. (And if it's made by traditional charcoal processes it'll normally have little or none of the sulfur and manganese that are found in modern steels. Sulfur comes from coal based smelting processes, and manganese is added to neutralize the sulfur.)

    Are we picking the nit here. How about steel Many grades but its all steel. Same for SS or Aluminum or Ti or even cast iron. A few on here have access to the equipment to actually test stuff. For the rest of us it's a crap shoot.
    Can't even go by the steel suppliers all the time. 3 times in the past I have gotten 8" steel bars specs specified.
    parts were cut then CNC machined then welded into a 3/4" plate. The welds started cracking right down the center.Oops
    they sent leaded bar. They replaced the bars but we lost a week of machineing and a week of welding. I lost another week cause they wanted to save the machined plates.Spark tests? Do green,gray,brown wheels and grinding disks all show the same spark and do we all see the same? Did the Wi come from a marine salvage a manure wagon or an out of the weather source? To me it's sorta like. "How long does it take to forge a 6" taper" Red yellow or white hot.
    1.5, 2, 2.5, or 3lb hammer(or power hammer)Is the Wi once worked twice or 3-4-5 times worked.
    Ken.

  9. You know what hasn't been mentioned yet?

    Drill the edges and bolt them together, possibly using angle iron or bent flat straps to take up the edges. Avoid the whole welding argument entirely.

    Phil

    Phil, Have ya ever noticed bolts subjected to heat tend to be impossible to remove or they snap. Welds don't have to be pretty in a fire pot (mine do)Best thing is a drop in pot with welded corners No fuss to repair.
    Ken.
  10. Not sure how we got on forklifts but my favorite was a V80 cat diesel with dual air tires.
    Qualification was take a 20ft bundle of steel thru a 12 ft door and a 8 million dollar motion ride(20Ft and 12+ thousand lbs) out the 12 ft door across a gravel lot thru a 10Foot chain link gate across a crowned road. Be able to wizz across the shop and crack a hardboiled egg with the fork. now in my shop its a skid steer with forks. Thru the door square turn and set it on the bench, Damm I miss that big cat.
    Ken.


  11. Hello all,

    I am new to the site and a newbie at blacksmith work. So my brother helped out getting a nice old buffalo forge and some miscellaneous hammers, and a pretty nice Hay Budden anvil. I would love to know a little more about it if anyone can help me out. I have been perusing the othe anvil posts, and would like to clean it up a little, and put it to work. I have read on here to wirewheel it and put some Johnsons paste wax on it. Is that the best way to go?

    Anvil Serial number is:65530 it could be 65332 or 65330. Couple of the numbers are hard to read. There is also a number 8 stamped sideways under the horn. The weight markings (I assume they are weight markings) are 1 7 0. It seems like that should be 170 pounds, there is no way they can be the same as the English markins, that would make it almost 300 pounds.

    After reading on here I am pretty excited about this anvil. Might need to get it a new stump though.

    Thanks all, hopefully I will be posting up some forged projects soon.
    The weight mark is on the side under the logo and is in lbs. The 8 under the horn is a inspectors stamp.
    Ken.

  12. well keep in mind anvil addiction and anvilosis/anvilitis are seperate things.

    the second and third are diseases thought to be contracted similarly to blacklung, the coal miners disease caught from breathing too much coal dust. these diseases are thought to be caught from a time spent around a vast number of different blacksmithing tools.

    unfortunatly like cocaine, blacksmithing addiction can be contracted(is that the right word?)with only one dose. in fact most cases of anvil addiction(or blacksmithing addiction) happen after only one time, the victims claim "I'll try it just this once, I will not become an addict." most do become addicts after the first try.

    ...Hello my name is Tim, I am an addict.....I know I am and I don't care. I will learn to cope and no 12 step programs will help me. I won't let it!!! Like my insanity I don't suffer from it, I enjoy every minute.

    Ya just need the right 12 step program. Stack all your anvils up. Pick up the stack and take 12 steps.Repete
    whenever ya start thinking of adding another one. In really bad cases make the steps up the stairs.
    Ken.

  13. For a forklift look on Craigslist. Here in the Las Vegas area I saw an LP 5K Yale go for Free-lasted 20 minutes. It ran but was missing a tooth off the flywheel , so you needed to rotate a little by hand every once in awhile.

    I picked up a 5K Toyota low mast diesel for $800. Max lift is 79", and will easily fit in a standard house garage. I also bought an 8K Champ rough terrain lift with a 25'-30' reach for $3,500.

    There are multiple lifts that I have seen in the $2,000, or less range.

    I would stay away from electric, and look at LP, or gas. Between the chargers, the cost of batteries, and required maintenance I wouldn't get one.

    I like diesel due the fuel not going bad no matter how long it sits. I have never had a problem with water, but others may depending on where you live. Here in the desert fuel can go bad very quickly. The Toyota I bought had sat outside for 2 years-fired right up with the fuel that was in the tank. The Champ has a Ford 300 6, so I just put enough gas in it to do what I need to do, and try not to leave too much in the tank when I am done.

    Propane/LP-clean, and can be used indoors. Cons, dealing with tanks, can freeze up the carb in cold climates, and if you run out in the middle of the night, you may not be able to get the tank filled till morning. My 7K TowMotor is a Continental flathead 4 converted to LP.

    Tires- hard tires = pavement/concrete. Watch asphalt when it is really hot, as they will sink in.

    cushion=pavement, hard packed dirt/gravel. If it doesn't have a valve stem it is a cushion tire. I see a lot of them misidentified on the listings as pneumatic.

    Pneumatic=all terrain

    Just a note here. A solid tire lift will word most places IF ya know what ya are doing. Worked in many shops that said hard tires only on concrete. One boss told our mgr if i got the hard tire stuck I would be fired. unloaded the truck and dragged the air tired lift inside. Moved up to 10,000 lbs outdoors with a hard tired clark.
    Ken.
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