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2Tim215

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  1. i think by saying "biblical times", you are encompassing a vast range of time periods

    (anywhere between "the creation" arguably 4.5 billion years ago , until the 2nd century AD)

     

     narrowing it down to a particular place at a particular time period would do wonders for research on the matter. being a bit scientific in the archeologicial side of things......

    That all depends on your view - Creationist or evolutionist - creationists don't hold to the 4.5 billion year "THEORY" - you know that one that changes every time they make a new discovery. :D

  2. Sometimes I go off track and the wierdest questions tickle my brain. Like this one: What kind of technology was available in biblical times for a furnace to be hot enough to kill those who threw Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego into the fire never mind big enough to fit three people. I know how much fuel it takes to heat up my small damascus forge to welding temp using veg oil and I know how much coal it takes to keep a small forge fire going at welding temp for a reasonable length of time. I have also worked in a foundry with big electric furnaces and pots for smelting and even though they are extremely hot you can get quite close without dying.

     

    We know this was not a once off arrangment coz it says:

     

    19 Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.

     

    I think sometimes we have this very naive and primitive view of how people lived in biblical times. I have sometimes used my forge to give children an impression of the heat mentioned in this passage and I am quite sure that my estimation is way off.

     

    So how hot do you think it was and how and what do you think they used to get it that hot?  Remembering that this was an existing furnace used IMHO fairly often.

  3. Thanks Peter - my anvil will be 250kgs plus a 1mtr x 1 mtr 20mm base plate and all the weight of everything else. Didn't draw all the extras for tooling - no time.

     

    Frosty - it's funny but I have also been thinking of a shock type system for the last four months. Was thinking of a coil spring made up to fit within a tube that is the same size as the hammer, there would have to be central guide shaft running through a plate welded in the middle of the tube and another coil spring above that would have another plate that fits snugly in the tube and then a bolt on the shaft that could adjust the tension. Don't know if that makes sense - will try and do a drawing.

  4. That looks a lot cleaner and more efficient. The flat bar under the tire is the brake? A little large if so but it'll work.

     

    The concept tire hammer I've been working on has the drive tire attached to the crank plate like you show. I'll be using a trailer spindle and hub rather than a shaft and pillow block bearings. The spindle bearings are automotive thrust bearings and will take the off center forces much better. I think I'll mount the motor and drive wheel on the side below center of the tire so I won't need return springs, let gravity work for me. the hinge plate the motor will mount to will have an arm above center with a friction pad to stop the hammer when I let off the treadle.

     

    Nothing new in that, what has me going slow is the crank plate arrangement, I don't like the amount of horizontally reciprocating mass of the standard crank arm, connecting rod and springs you see in most hammers yours, LG, most all of them. I'm still winkling it out but basing my brainstorming on the "sotch yoke".

     

    Frosty The Lucky.

    Thanks Frosty. Will also be using a spindle hub, just couldn't draw it that well. Also agree on the crank plate arrangement and your scotch yoke thing got me surfing and thinking and you have just messed up all my plans coz' now I just have to give it a go.

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