metalmangeler Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I recently had a couple tie rods break on my air cylinder, and of course the o rings went. Anyhow when taking it apart it became aparent that the tie rods were pretty good steel. I am guessing that I need to use 4140, 5160 or somethinglike that. Do I need to heat treat these as well? Has anyone replaced these with A36 and had that hold together? Thank you. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Why are they breaking and where? Maybe the rod diameter is too small for the job of there's too much deflection or both.......They use ''pretty good steel'' in air cyl rods a reason so I doubt using mild steel will solve your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macbruce Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Why are they breaking and where? Maybe the rod diameter is too small for the job of there's too much deflection or both.......They use ''pretty good steel'' in air cyl rods a reason so I doubt using mild steel will solve your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmangeler Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 They broke where the nut screws on the rod, they were used for quite awhile, the hammer is about 12 yrs old. I am buying a new cylinder so the repair is only a temparary measure I have some 4140 on hand so I will be using it. I think I will try it without heat treating it and see if that works. I should have it together again tonight, so if it breaks instantly I will post otherwise who I will hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmangeler Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 For now the 4140 not heat treated seems to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptree Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Cylinder tie rods are normally a proprietary steel called "Stressproof" having a yeild strenght of about 140,000psi. They are usually roll threaded up from roll thread pitch diameter and are sized to not let the head or cap lift off the cylinder with normal pressures. The idea is that an O-ring can extrude thru any given gap if the pressure is high enough, and on a low pressure air cylinder these pressures will ley an O-ring seal even a 0.005" gap Ptree who in a previous century worked at a manufacturer of air cylinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmangeler Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 Thanks Ptree: I hope to have my new cylinder tomorrow, and then this one will be a spare. These repairs really cut into production, but they put into perspective how fortunate I am to have tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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