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Hey guys. Hope all hss neen well. It was suggested earlier to try and finish my billet just to see. I have done that. In crack pic is there something to tell me the crack is more than just needing another beat Pic two. Was i dumb to scoreythematal this much digging for smooth on the inside Question C if you beat cable at welding heat, will it disappear, refuse to spread out. In the really good video it showed welding. If i can figure the color to heat, is there good temps to stretch out cable. Ive been using welding heat 2075- 2200 for everything. Thanks I have a rr track to work on and a shallow straight peen and plenty beginners cross peen. I have also been hitting it pretty hard once my ping is solid. Rr track jumps about 4" if ive got a special hit to do

Thank you gentleman. This was a requench on an already tempered blade i didnt like without the handle hardened too. It bent. have a great weekend guys and thanks.

Side item, sorry. I rehardened a piece of metal but forgot to temper 1 week ago, can i just temper now at 300 for 2 hours or all the way reharden again. Tx

This one was worlds easier with you guys help. I kinda choose optimism over cognition alot. If yal wouldnt have helped, you can imagine how far id have gotte. It looks like im combing metal hair. Thanks guys, Picture when visiible

Listening for new stuff i mean for next lot of metal bought.

Ok, thanks, i tried to continue finishing this and actually did ok. If i dont "pound" once its stiffening i can seem to effect the center strands. Every cut i did across the billet showed a few strands in the center i think disappeared with more hammering. Its go good to know to do each section 100%. Id been doing about 8-13. As a side note. I did see slag bubble out in the flux when i dropped it in cracks. Pretty neet. Im gonna post pics but it takes alot of time to sand w an angle grinder. Too get all the grooves and recessions. I am listening, just trying to quietly get out of this (the 2" is nice for bigger blades.) Fiasco. The other thing is that i have 16" x 2" with expensively migged ends, and dont have anything else to work on. I really appreciate you not giving up on me. I am listening for new stuff.

By but it down you mean less psi?im pretty sure both sho definate cold suts. How is it this wont join when its only .80% of mass. I was gonna cut 3-4" sections for kniving. If i get back up to welding heat, using 3-4" pieces, can i not just beat the space out of it?. And what is the whole unravel thing. Ive lost about 8" off this billet due to 1 strand i could not get seated in my new melty cable i would have guessed the 2nd pic to be a bad weld but it came out fine.i think . I know the fissures on the bottom delineate where my forge has strand burned permanently pr does this just meed a thorough pounding??thanks

Is there any chance, My burned looking pieces are just cable not cleaned enough and by hammering the heat will overwhelm the lack of weld and will weld it together? I got up to 23 psi last night and got much farther closing the billet. The forge got white before i put the cable in. Im using a watch cause i cant look in forge with no metal even in it. ( thought metal gets brighter) Thanks again Today i repound, sand billet and then ill post pics Happy weekend to all

How much am i trying to save this. Do i cut specifically around pices, lightly ground the cold ahut. Im planning on welding the metal more as i go along. Do serious metalworkers do 100% as they go down the cable or can you do all the 2 lb hammer, then the 3lb. Then it should hold and a 4 lb would be used. This cable has appeared to appreciate time to settle. Or maybe i just start hotter each day than i finish. Thanks I know pic has cold shuts but theyre still 80% welded. Im gonna clean up billet more but dont know how 3d deep to go.im pretty sure 90% of strands valleys are all ok. How do i know im refining my weld and not just beating all the metal together. Is 13 psi way to low for a vevor store forge. It goes up to 30 psi but gas goes quick on that setting. Id use smaller cable but im weaponed out so the only things i make are machetes for fun. I dont know what to with what for me would probably struggle to hit .25". With 2" i can lose a lot due to cold metal.

Im just trying to do something difficultand expensive with 2". I hope to one day find a natural calling if i look enough. Thanks for video timer heads up. Tx

Is 420 a joke? Thats how my day is lit too. Do you know a lowest number in degrees to hammer cable. I heard it works below solid steel and have a degree/color chart im slowly learning. I know it doesnt like to start at margarine yellow. Color analysis gets better each time. I dont. Thank you much sir. I can make mine just as flat as pic and pinging but strands show back up before morning. Its just the forge for light so i can really see the billet. Thanks

I SWEAR i had the stuff pinging in the dark the other night and in the morning nd it wasnt welded. Blew my mind. on a rr so i know i was hitting it. Turns out you you guys have been thorough and helped keep me grounded. THANK YOU GUYS.I could have produced this stump with 1.5" much Is yellow ok to hammer this stuff? Down to bright tangerine for welding?? (If its a real deep bright orange). My cable is supposed to be like or the same for 1084 Tx

Should t try to twist the little billet now or will that just wash out the figure? I didnt get my initial twist that tight Many thanks Should i angle grind this billet or will i waste my time tx

Does the strands in pic 1 look too loose to be ok and the second pic shows where i cut it, found some wires, but now tried to reforge it. Does anything look noway. Pick 3 shows other half of pic two at cutting time. I posted pic above. Thanks guys. I got that done today at break I just tried flu and rapid rabbit hammers to close this end and thinks its at least way better.. why will slag pop off when i hammer it but not fall out from inside the braid. Wonder if the water pop would work

Thank you sir. I never would have come up with just using the spin. Its a little short and i dont have any rebar attached so my channel locks get good work. The always forging at full heat is a question thats always bothered me I might have got quicker answers elsewhere but you guys are pure gold. Plus i havent been yelled at over here yet. And i owe swage advocates an apology. I meant to say they dont work with cold metal but they work very well if metals hot. How can i tell ive hit it enough in welding that i can just beat it? I can feel if its not, but cable has a longer memory than me. Tx

Ok, thank you much. This billet is about 1.25" and its a real bear to slice off every few inches to see how high its gone . Using angle grinder to cut. Tx for helping

Thank you. Doesnt flux fight scale when it dissappears in the cable. Serious question i read last night about. And would it be a weak spot to just try to hammer in the dime size piece. Tx Is there a better topic i should attempt posts under. I did just get a vswage delivered saturday.

Wow! Thanks, i gotta print that up. All good stuff. Thank you much. If i refine the weld, (just hit it repeatedly) would it solidify in the wasted space? You were dead right about the temp. I was thinking id already burned the flux out and missed the show but was just not waiting long enough. Is there anyway to spot a flyaway strand that will just eat a billet. I lost 5 of 14" when these strands separated. I now know not to death hammer it down and try to keep crunching levels. Thanks for welding free tip. Thats valuable. Thanks again for reaching out, really appreciated Take time heating flew over my head too. Do you go slower with a regulator or o the adjustable forge contols. (Orange little bars that rotate up to open.) Tx

I cut the ends off and was able to see the "look" of bad strands. I guess it's pretty easy to tell. I found in outside reading the answers i was looking for. No cable folks huh? The cable part of knifemaking section isnt full of much good info yet, its more what people want to piece meal together. In the past there were people like kraythe who would give full systems when asked. Is 2024 year of stock removal? I know in Chinese its the year of the donkey.

I got my first v swage and migt do worse with it. Do these pictures show someting i need to hammer, cut off or just cut the loose strands out (they are melted in place, though poorly)? Thanks Does anyone know what 2 inch cable will shrink down to upon hammering? The bigger sized part of cable is freehand but maybe its not fully collapsed I think these csble ends got a weird start due to having ends migged and that stuff seems tough and to have grabbed everything

What is the moment where you give up on welding certain strands? Some that look like theyve gotten black still go in. And how do you put toggether a big split in a billet. Lots of firm taps or can i hit it finally. Was tight but loosened up. Sometimes i hit a line "cooler" and it rips up the whole line from my weld but it made my rr track ping. Tx Sorry, wrong place

Ill paint it happily if someone knows a good brand, but fancy primers can hit 25 a can. I know i only need one. Ill pulll it under the carport more if it is fixed. Picture was on gas about 3min and it goes near white by 7-8 min. Almost cooked my cell for closeups . What temp and time should i use to definately dry accumulated rain with a forge burn? It rained Very near it yesterday

Forge was gonna be satanite but found cheap kastolite they advertise here. Over 1' ghetto blanket. Under that is the forge body.

Forge has been outside maybe 2 weeks to get it ready, cheap stainless has rusted on me quicker. Somehow iim ok with the pipes degradation. i think the castable dried pretty ok based on steam escaping from said drilled hole. Coulda woulda on longer or hotter. Thepic showed fluxed metal that got cool. Maybe thats my scale. Already metrakoted and am counting down the 4 hours to burn in Thanks again

Thanks for your quick help. I was margarine yellow instead of butter white so maybe i just never got there. Ive found pounding 200-300 below temp pits it and looks like scale afterward to me so maybe im just misreadiing it all. Hb