sidesaddle queen

wow!!  i am not anywhere near needing to differentiate my hammers because of differing faces.. but cool idea!!!  

i use mostly small hammers ..  5 0z to 20 oz.. i have small  hands and work with thin metal..  most small hammers have very small handles.. then tend to rotate of if do not grip. 

should i replace the whole handle or can i add wood where i need it??  any disadvantages to adding wood..  ?? i could put it right where i need it 

lol!! i know hands come in many sizes..  i am  wanting to know how y'all make them fit .. 

i will do the browser search.. thanks!! 

explain "fitting it to the user" please!

hi,   can the shape of the hammer's handle effect accuracy??   

okay,,

okay got my cardboard pattern and waxes done!!  

i should start a new thread under horse stuff ..right???    if y'all want to see what i will be doing,, 

the fork is under more force than the stirrup..   force from the body of the horse not the rider,,   a  horse jumping a large fence  can crack a tree,, 

i  need to change the shape of existing  parts .. making new ones is a  a project i am playing with.   i needed to understand the metal so showing the saddle fork gave y'all the idea of what i am working with.

i wanted to open this one up to fit a modern horse  and change the shape of the horn.. 

this metal will curl up when hit with a hard force .. like a horse falling on it,,   i have leaping horns that have curled and i need to uncurl them.. they are not easily replaceable ..  

bronze or brass is not an option,, 

y'all have giving me new avenues to follow.. lol!!    more than i ever expected..  

no bronze, will not work.. i am / i was a bronze sculptor before i started redoing these saddles.. believe  me if i could work in it .. i would a happy camper! lol!!

i am wanting  to re-bend some parts that have been over bent from drops on  hard floors or from horses falling on them..    i know they can be reshaped, the art is just lost,,    

the metal fork got being cast has send me thru the looking glass ..lol!! i know these leaping pommels  can be shaped .  but no books exist to give me the info and all the old tree makers are gone,, 

i drive my friends crazy when i go off on another hunt for lost methods, but sometimes i find a answer..  lol!! 

the leaping pommel we tried to re-bend broke. so i have been afraid to try another one..  but at 4:30 this am i realized it was a modern cast one  so it was not the same metal,,  

jhcc,        sadly   i do believe you are right..   but it has been fun chasing down the rabbit hole,, paul hasluck's metalworking book brought me to a stop..lol!! but .. i still might experiment,, lol!!

george n.m.  bronze will not break but will bend more readily than iron under the same force..  i made horse bits and stirrups  from bronze and they slowly bent out of shape with use ..

lindale is a nice town.. used to have a horse trainer friend there,,  

frosty, i wish i could from alaska is too far away.. and too cold for me.. lol!!  i found some texas foundries not far from me but doubt they would do  small pours,,  

making a wax copy of  the metal fork and cantle piece   and i have located a few foundries but they may not cast small numbers..  the foundry i used to use is closed  and most art foundries do not cast iron.  

 i can manipulate the wax and an experiment with different widths   ...,  then,  i will make one from mild steel and see what i can do with it .. might just  rivet one together to play with..  

the cantle piece will be hard to duplicate without casting.   lol!! i have not worked in wax or sculpted in metal in yrs..  i am out of practice ..  

making a cardboard pattern right now,, 

on the last piece,,  

if i reheat malleable cast iron will it anneal more or turn back into regular cast iron 

okay, good to know,,  thanks,  we use pvc for drainage too..  makes plumbing easy.. like tinker toys.  lol!!!  

they are very sculptural , i collected as art way before i started riding them.    they are so different form each other ..  each tree maker has his own idea of what would work,,  many don't lol!! 

i call it  a bare tree ...

i am making wax copies of the metal work this week.. then will put the saddle back together and put it on a horse,, 

yep, a good mel brooks   also robin hood,  men in tights!!!  

i never used metal fittings other than brass.. all our water lines are pvc..    i have never seen a building with iron pipes.. if we use metal it is copper or brass,,  so.. i don't think is  as much  me being a girl ,  as me being a texan... lol!!

saddle with cast iron fork and cantle piece back together and ready for leather,, she turned out pretty.. important since i am a girl...  lol!!

okay, a plumbing supply.. lol!! that is easy.. there is one 8 miles from my farm..  

just watched young frankestein.. and black adder..  lol!! 

thanks, i will start the search!!! 

darn, so where will i get black iron fittings??

oil field pipe and fittings are everywhere around here,, lol!!

black pipe like oil field pipe???

thanks for the chart.. i like the black and white showing shapes,,,

what color will the sparks of malleable cast iron be??   i am pretty sure that metal these sidesaddle components are made of..  

i dropped  the pommel fork off the work table when i shifted the saddle parts .. it hit my tile/concrete floor with a bounce,,  luckily, it  didn't break my tile but did bend the corner of the flange on the fork..    so.. like bronze, a sharp hit can make it bend rather than fracture,,

 i found that very interesting,,  so i tried to straighten the bent corner with a small 8 oz hammer  and a 2lb hammer .. i was able to move metal with both.. fixed the corner like it never happened..

thoughts?? 

i didn't know there was a horse stuff section...  wow i am going  to have to  do some searching  

love blazing saddles!!!  

i own time bandits but do not remember  the pink  bunkadoo.. lol!! will have to watch it again,,

i searched malleable cast iron and understand the differences now,    thank for the info... i never knew about malleable  cast iron ..lol!!

what ever the the leaping horns are made of they do bend under extreme force.. like a horse falling on them but it seems i will not be able to heat them and reshape.. so.  i guess i will have to make new ones and replace them,,    another reason for me to learn to forge.. lol!!    

 there is a guy making replacement horns but they are coarse and not shaped right,,, can be reshaped but i had to have a friend completely rebuild the one i bought so why  buy one from him at all,, 

 what is the difference between ductile and malleable  cast iron??

pink bunkadoo??

do not want to break it.... want to reshape it,,    from a saddle made in late 1890s-1905   american patent is 1900

could be older than 1890s but not real way to know,, things changed slowly back then.  

cast iron sidesaddle fork 

 ductile or normal cast iron?? will only sparks tell?? lol!! can you use your magic wand and tell me..??

17 hours ago, Frosty said:

A convertible sidesaddle brings images to mind of Mel Brooks movie with an evil dwarf and a remote control cackling as he switches the rich girl's riding club sidesaddles back and forth. 

what mel brooks movie was that?? i have to know!!!