winterbear

Hi louie, glad to see more Wa people on board I am just over a hour south and west of spokan.
Chris

thomas you found a power hammer for $100 come on details, that is in my price range

And that is a awesome anvil!!

*I* would have jumped on that one and I'm nortoriously cheap---I didn't even buy the powerhammer I found on the way back from the SWABA-AABA conference yesterday and it was only US$100...


"caribou in the trunk" sounds like a band name

well here is the flyer, I am hoping to make pacific primatives this year as well most likely as a participant only and not a vendor.
Chris

So for full disclosure this is our show, I am pitching it a bit. Anyway it may be of interest to some folks on here not many iron workers in the last couple years but lots of crafts, supplies ect related to black powder guns history and reinacting in general all pre 1860. So if you are in the area of Coeur d'Alene Id the 20th or 21st of feb drop by the fairgrounds.
Chris

Glenn thanks for the ideas I'll use them too, the inland group I hadn't seen yet and I am only 80 miles from the contact listed I emailed him and it is a dead email:( the others for me are a ways away hopefully I can get to the west side for some events but it is 300+ miles and a mountain pass so winter can be interesting :)

Angus have you met Pawnee? He is in Blanchard I don't think he is smithing full time anymore but I think he is on here from time to time. Now have we met before, we have done the show for quite awhile now. Anyway if you make it over stop by and introduce yourself I'm Chris Roberts we are Mountain top trading and have the large booth just to the left inside the door, just not the old guy thats my dad .

some iron work there not sure what other blacksmith's might show right now besides church mouse he does some nice camp sets and cooking utinsels.
Chris

Angus, havn't heard of anything coming up soon. However there is usually a hammer in flyer on the table at the CDA muzzleloading gunshow the weekend of the 20-21st. I'll post up dates if there is one there this year. or, here is the shameless plug and just for full disclosure Me and my folks put on the show, stop by and say hi
Chris

Jeremy, what did you pay pre restoration if you don't mind sharing? I would buy a project piece like that quick if I had cash in hand. Easier for me to buy and rebuild/refurbish than purchase a working machine sometimes, and I like ressurecting old tools ect.
Chris

Very interesting , so what is the differances between a beam design and say a standard upright LG? Is it striking power? what is the comparable weight rating on beam hammers like this, or how would you calculate it? Seems like this would be a nice compact design for a small shop .
Chris

well it went on ebay for $325 I guess I should have tried harder to come up with the $300 craigslist price.
Chris

wow that has to be the same vise listed on ebay, but a different price
chris

So I found this locally and am having trouble determining if it is worth the asking price. I know just like anything it is worth what someone will pay for it, I am just trying to determine what I would pay for it . I have tried looking on ebay ect for similar items and havn't had any luck. also any info on the Mfg would be of interest too.
on to the pics thanks

not to disparage Windlass or imports, but most of their iron work I believe is produced in india/pakistan, much lower safety standards in general. And alot of these imported items have a caveot of display only ect. If it were me I would take them down to the metal surface and start over from there to be sure what I was eating with. I would be worried about the same issues that surfaced with China And lead paint on toys, who knows for sure that isn't black lead paint .
Chris

I really like the opener, can you tell us how you cut the material for the horns/ears and the lower jaw?
Chris

so I put this in tailgaiting too any other ideas online where I can list this to share it around?5/8th x 11" wrought iron bolts - Blacksmithing Classifieds
Chris

Ok so this is probably not the right place for this anymore it should be in tailgaiting? MODS let me know if I should move it. Pm me if you are interested in any of these bolts. the first ones for sale are 58ths by 11" with 1" + forged square head and they weigh 1lb 6 oz ea lets go $2.50 a lb or $3.44 ea plus $10 for flat rate domestic (US) shipping up to 70lbs. lets talk first if you want to pay shipping on 1. anyway let me know or PM with questions offers ect ect ect
lets share the wrought around
next round if ther eis interest will be longer bolts 58th x20" but the max length in a flat rate box is 13" so would you guys go for them cut down to fit or would I need to look into other shipping methods?

chris

well lets try picturesfirst 3 are one of the bolts in the vice trying to show the grain and the last one is in comparasin with a huge broken hook that is a much coarser grain wrought iron

So to answer a few ?s
I am not in a position to purchase the lot from her right now, she has been very generous giving me quite a bit of iron/steel so far, so I am really just looking to help her out .

Rainsfire, I have considered listing some on bladeforum.com , I am a member over there as well and would love to see other sites you suggest. this material seems more refined than what they may be interested in? It is pretty fine grained with no large inclusions.

Nuge, what is cheap? most wrought I have seen listed was $2.50 + besides Monstermetal's post with the smaller diameter sizes being more $ is this because it is a more usable size without reducing? so what it comes down to is it has to be worth our time and effort as with anything right, while trying to save it from scrap.
Cutting to size and shipping in small lots will be time consuming but doable. what would be best for size? the lot I sorted yesterday is mostly 5/8th bolts in 12" and 24"-26" lengths, the 12" long stuff will go right in a priority box.

I will try and load pics tonight.
chris

Nakedanvil, yes sawing part way through and then bending to the failure point, definately wrought from the grain structure and splitting/tearing not snapping off like steel, and a finer grain structure than some other wrought I have gathered.
Doug thanks for the info on the NE school I had not seen their listing, I have searched the internet quite a bit looking for pricing and availability and info is sketchy at best with a few exceptions, exactly why I knew you guys would have more info for me
Thomas,don't worry bumpers are not in this materials future if I can help it, her deceased husband was in the scrap bussiness and tended to look at tonnage and not sorting more than the obvious so that is why I am helping her highgrade more than just aluminum ,copper and stainless out of the piles
chris

So I am new to smithing and mostly a lurker on here so bear with me. I have been helping a friend/coworker high grade out of a old scrap yard on her property and she is letting me acumulate stock for my forge. Anyway I am finding alot of wrought iron, mostly from a old lumber mill the previous owner helped demolish, large bolts/rod used in the timber framing. The last pile I found is probably several hundred lbs of 5/8- 3/4 rod/bolts about 2 and a half feet long. I will get some for my own use but am looking to help her sell some and I just don't know if there is a market in the NW. She will be scrapping the whole yard in the spring so we have a short window to determine what we should save out. She has allready been extremely generous to me for material I have already taken home so I don't feel I can say I want it all, but I don't want to see it sent to scrap either and I want to help her make some more $. So what do you guys think is there a market, would shipping be too outrageous, and what are fair prices it seems to be a pretty good quality based on the grain structure when I do a break test.
anyway thanks in advance I trust you guys will have some insight for me as I am learningn tons from your collective knowledge already.
Chris

Well drainage is a issue, the gravel in side that will be the shed's floor was there from the red steel shop's construction. Erosion over the last couple decades has deposited alot of dirt so the next plan is to set grade as best I can next to the blacksmith shed and along the back of the shed and big shop, but hey priorities right I need to set up and pound on some iron.

Floor plan is up in the air a bit but I am thinking the forge centered in the back bench/leg vise to the right and post drill on the left wall toward the front.
Chris

Well I am getting serious now! I have finally leveled ground and set some timbers for the new shed. 10' wide and 12' deep permanent home for the forge. Plan is recycled corrugated for the roof to go with the recycled timber frame. looking for some siding and deciding on windows for ventilation, front will be double barn doors. Should have the remaining bracing in tonight and the roofing on tonight or tomorrow night then I'm moving in. Side draft for the forge is next then we will be burning coal for real.
Chris

eastern WA newbie here, near Dusty if that helps anyone
Chris

Hi just joined,recently started burning coal and want to learn more so here I am. made a few screw drivers and then some fire steels and then jumped right in on my first forged knife blade.
Chris