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John in Oly, WA

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  1. Thanks for all the info everyone. Time for some more data gathering and head scratching on the vacuum chamber.

    Geez Thomas, it sounds like from your MatSci class, everything falls apart (Well, I guess everything does. Except the pyramids; they seem to be hanging in there, but look what they're made of). Just have to make sure that things fall apart in the safest way.

    On the 4340 drive shaft part, I'm pondering putting it in my heat treat oven to anneal it so I can cut it into smaller pieces to work - it sounds like a long process. Or just put it in the forge and hot cut it. But I don't have a hot cut - would have to chisel it apart. Want to make a hardie hot cut out of the forked end.

  2. Well, I'm just using one of those inexpensive vacuum pumps (1 Stage 4 CFM 1/3HP Rotary Vane Deep Vacuum Pump HVAC AC Air tool Kit R134 R410a) to stabilize wood, remove bubbles from silicone rubber molds and investment casts. On this vacuum gauge, my last test was to approx. 29.1 inHg. Not sure I really need that much, but was just testing the latest chamber.

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  3. Thanks Frosty. I haven't found one yet, but my thinking, obvious of course, was if it could handle the pressure outward, it could handle the pressure inward. Not so?

    So far, I've tried stainless stockpots - crumpled them. Was pondering an old propane tank with the top cut off. Was thinking I might have to go with a very large piece of steel pipe, 1/4" wall thickness, maybe 8 - 10" dia.

  4. On closer inspection, it has 4340 stamped in the shaft. 

    From a bit of searching, it looks workable for making tools from.

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    I'll have to see what the local metal supplier charges for 1/4" round to see if what I bought was worth it or not. Thinking of making a couple of hammer racks to mount on my anvil stand with the 1/4" widget metal.

  5. Probably old news to everyone but me, but I was browsing the local Goodwill store looking for a pressure cooker to use as a vacuum chamber and came across this for $6.99. Measured out, it's 20 feet of 1/4" round stock. Equivalent amount at the box stores would cost over $20. I know, who buys metal at the big box stores, but anyway another possible source of material to forge - Goodwill and thrift stores.

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    Also state government surplus sales stores can be a source of material. Just bought an outer axle shaft for $5 - about 1 1/4" x 14" of ??? 4140? or some medium carbon steel, and a crow bar for $3. Washington State's surplus store is selling an awful lot of elk and deer antlers right now - knife handles maybe? Unfortunately, they've been in an auction format and going for some pretty high prices.

  6. Nice job on the tongs! They look a lot like the Brazeal "ultimate" tongs.

    I started a pair a while ago myself. Got the toothy bit side made, then got side tracked making a belt grinder and heat treat oven. Yours are inspiration to get back and finish 'em.

  7. Thanks Latticino. Just don't look too closely at the welds or my sheet metal work. :blink: I don't have a brake, so I was bending the sheet off the edge of my table saw.

    In the initial oxidizing burn, I was a bit concerned as it reached the higher temps. At one point I watched the display go from 1798f to 1820f, back to 1805f, to 1792f, 1788f, 1796f, 1802f, then continue progressing upward again. it was set to reach 1945f and it bounced around from low 1940s to 1958f and back before signaling "complete" and returning to idle. I was beginning to wonder if my thermocouple was not functioning as well as it could be. I have no experience using thermocouples though, so I'll keep watching it and see how it does. It was also a "canned" cone fire to 04, so I need to look at the program and see if there were any built in plateaus that might explain it.

    The next firing, I'll set my own program to hit a critical temp and hold for a period of time to test the temp stability.

    You are correct, aside from heat treating blades, melting bronze, brass, aluminum, maybe venture into silver. The element is the Kanthal A-1 wire, but I don't see me casting iron or steel in the foreseeable future.

  8. I finally finished my heat treat oven. Took a few months to pull all the research together, do a lot of head scratching to figure out the electrical circuits and other details, and then acquire all the parts and pieces and put them all together in the right order. Fired it up yesterday on it's initial oxidizing run. Took it to 1950F. My thoughts are to use it to melt metal for casting, as a burn out oven for the molds for casting, fire smaller ceramics in it, as well as heat treating blades. All in all, an interesting project.

     

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  9. Buzzkill's advice on the Harbor Freight taps and dies is spot on! Go buy some real taps - they cut well, start well, AND are actually the size they say they are, unlike the Harbor Freight variety. Don't get me wrong though, I love Harbor Freight - for some things, other things, not so much. Just like blacksmithing and a lot of other things in life, you gotta do your research.

    P.S. That "TON OF EGOS"? ARE the valuable resources of IFI.

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