I totally understand where all of you are coming from. I don't know where you want to go,but i see $$$ signs in all. Not everyone thinks and does things the way i do. Don't want you to. Be yourslf,, but ask yourself why? Why are you a Blacksmith? To make alot of money and maybe get rich? That's fine if you do think that way.My Blacksmithing skills are very young. Just getting started. I have no problem staying busy. There's a reason for that and it's simple. Sell your product cheap! I am not a Blacksmith to get rich. I am a Blacksmith for the love of the trade. If some thing takes me 2 hours to make and i have 8 dollars in materials, I have no problem selling it for 15 dollars. Thats 7 dollars i didn't have 2 hours ago. $3.50 an hour is sad. But it's not about the money for me. The smiles i put on peoples faces and the thanks i get in return are pricless. Also that person will tell another and so on. Some have even paid more than my asking price. BONUS! Jim Coke knows what i drive, "Don't laugh at my truck Jim" I live a simple life and don't live beyond my income. If i can provide someone with what they want or need and get a lil money and a smile or a good hand shake,then i have been successful as a Blacksmith in my book!!!