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wou thanks for all the replies this helps a ton. i never thought of keeping the work off the anvil so thanks. "ThomasPowers" the vac is really noisy, but for 5$ it was a steal, and i might have built my forge 3 feet long with with slits running a pipe with a sliding steel to cover the holes that i am not using, agian i will take pics later. "Chinobi" on 7 i never even thought about the fact that it would be srinking once it hits the cold, lol i always was like "XXX how did u get less tight", and my dad did have a book on metal welding and if i remember corectly it had a part about making nails which i will look for tonight. "eddie mullins" I have done about 2 years off and on reading and waching videos, more videos i am a slow reader, and i haven't looked for some one to help me becuase i haven't wanted to wiast some ones time with learning the basics, and last some times it is really hard to go through all the advanced metals talk, diffrent opinions, and types of metal, to find the basics that some times can be becuase of 5 diffrent things.

So i made my forge(pics coming), i got my anvil, made a stand, using a shop vac and a pipe clamp for air control, got tongs, got 50 pounds of coke for my birthday, best gift ever, made a drift, cut off for my hardy hole, a hand knife, part of a kichen knife(from a 1 1/2 X 1 1/2 inch piece of 1060,, that took a lot of drawing out), tons of S hooks for plants, some rivets(really need to work on that), but i am having some problems that i just can't seem to get over or find a answer to. 1. That film that comes off of the metal when u are forging, it seems to be making little holes on my metal, am i not doing something right do i need to brush my metal more, i saw one video that said to put down some water first and it will stop that ??? 2. the coke i am using becomes really sticky and glass like after a like one forge, is this just becuase of the quality of it, do i have to clean my forge more, am i burning it to hot. 3. My metal is only workable for like 10 seconds, i am working out side, and i am in vancouver washington, is it the ambient temperature of the air, do i have to heat the metal at a lower temp for longer befor bring it up, I watched a few videos and they didn't seem to have any problem and could work it for a good while. 4. Air controll, now i just am clamping the pipe from the shop vac, and this thing puts out the air hard, i melted through my first kichen knife in like 10 seconds, should i just macgyver together a better air clamp or is it just that touchy, or should i just make/buy one of those blowers every one uses? 5. making the holes, so i made a little drift shaped like this on the tip / / / / / | | | | That is if it was cut in half, but from videos of people making holes it usually pops out and mine kinda ,,, smooshess out, usually i have to flatten that part, and i saw that some drifts go all the way throe and out, mine is to long should i cut it down??? if some one could post picks of what there drifts/drift tips look like that would be nice 6. using the drift, so agian from videos i saw that people hold the tongs with there legs and then hamer and hold the drift, I most say i don't have this trick down yet,, and it might have gone flying once, thank god for safty stuff, am i just doing it wrong is there a better tool, like a vice? 7. and this is the last one for now, rivets,,, i tried to heat it up, put it in a vice and hit the top, but one of 3 things happen, it cools down befor i really can do anything, it doesn't shape right, or it twistes in the vice, is there a easyer way, and or tools that i need to make. sorry for the spelling, for some reason my auto correct isn't working ??? i will fix it later, have to go make 3d printers so i don't have the time.

I also know that if u use the plastic screen on the video it won't last long, most plastics degrades under uv unless protected, which the protection wouldn't let the sun go throe it as well XD. So it mostlikely would only last 1 month of use and then turn black and crack. nasa tried to make a tether cable out of kevlar but it broke half way to space becuase kevlar only lasts like 1 hour under the sun with out protection. And one way to destroy diamonds is from the sun, it really eats away at stuff, like wood, stone, plastic, humans, eyes, hands.

so it is a Hay Budden Manufacturer N.Y. 75 pounds, and three hammers and one thing???, for 225, it seams like a good deal, but how good are the tools, and what is that little thing, and is that a good brand. ps. yes I am still going to get it if they don't sell it by the weekend.

Has any one tried to put a hard steel layer onto a iron anvil, like the one at grizzly, i mean just take a good arch welder from like home depot, and weld a half inch of good steel to it, and then also around the noze. Once it starts to come of just re-do the surfice and lay a nother one on it, or would it not work. just asking, and trying to fined a loop around from having to buy a new one, or watch for a old one.

I am a starting blacksmith, and would like a 100 pound anvil, perferably for a good price, i don't mind if it is rusting. please pm me if you are saling one near, portland or. And should i Hvae posted this some were else. :D