I have looked up videos and what not for tongs, and I've read all of your artciles believe it or not. I have a hard time with the tongs, because I do not have a decent or real anvil to bend it on, im using a C-peice of metal that bolted onto the log that i'm using as an anvil stand. I'll try the screw driver tomorrow or this weekend. One more question, do any of you have the problem of the metal folding in on itself while smithing. And how do you fix that??? I had to throw our a knife that i made from a giant railroad spike, and made a new one. The second one was really good, and my younger brother uses it.