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I never said that people buying insurance are paranoid. By the way, are you an attorney? I could cull it out of your posts but did you say you were an attorney? The esq in your username leads me to think you are an attorney. Because if you are an attorney, I have a very bad opinion of attorneys. You may ask why. But If I were to tell you I doubt that the IFI website could handle the volume of my reply. So let's not go there. This website is about blacksmithing. If you want to contribute something about blacksmithing then go ahead. If you want to talk about abstract probabilities or about spreading paranoia because someone makes a fixture, then why don't you go to one of your lawyer sites. Don't take it personally, but this is also a sign of the times and I for one am sick of it.

I think the paranoia is getting a bit out of hand. The fact that a hand made fixture, one off, must be UL tested or listed is just ridiculous. And if it is correctly wired using UL listed parts and is designed correctly for heat dissipation then I doubt that it would cause a fire or be a reason that an insurance company could deny coverage just because it is present in the establishment where the fire occurred. It is not being sold to a mass market. It is one fixture. Plenty of people in the craft world produce fixtures and other art that included lighting and I can assure you they do not pay for a UL analysis, testing or listing. Get a grip.

I sure found it useful. Nice video. Thanks

I think you did a very nice job. BUT next time pay some attention to the symmetry of the hanger. It does not hang vertical. You should have put a gooseneck it. But you already know that.

Yes it is. But it is not about "public health and safety" or consumer protection. It is about fees, money, protectionism, and lobbies. I don't want to hijack the thread but just pointing out the handwriting on the wall. Give them a standard and they will find a way to extract $$ from you. I now have to maintain 3 licenses to run my business. Every new jurisdiction I take a job in (like a new county) I need a new license at the average cost of $175 per year, not to mention the time you have to take off to go take some inane business law test that has nothing to do with the trade. These are the times that we live in here in the good ol USA.

Did you include a ground lug welded to the fixture and a green ground wire to CYA?

Go ahead and establish a national standard to be a blacksmith. Require different levels of proficiency, education, experience, and testing. Then get ready to be regulated by your government and find out that you need an occupational license to call yourself a blacksmith or start a blacksmith business. New Jersey just added this one recently to a list that now contains more than 53 occupations. Interior Design Examination and Evaluation Committee Welcome to the Website of the Interior Design Examination and Evaluation Committee. Welcome to the website of the New Jersey Interior Design Examination and Evaluation Committee. The Committee is responsible for protecting the public’s health and safety by determining the qualifications of interior designers seeking certification in this State, establishing standards for certification, and disciplining licensees who do not adhere to those requirements. "Certified interior designer" is an individual (someone) who through education, training, and experience is skilled in interior design services for commercial and residential spaces and is certified by the Board and holds a current, valid certificate. Unintended consequences!

Frosty, In picture 4, is that what is referred to as a scissor tool? Last month I had my first foray into metal spinning. I made a scissor tool (if that is what it is called), spun a chuck and got to work spinning .040 cold rolled. I now have an undying respect for metal spinners. It is an amazing craft but now I know it takes years to learn.

Thanks Knots. The sconces are finished and packed up for shipment. There are 4, two doubles and two singles. But I won't post a picture until the client has them and gives me a go ahead to show them.

Bruce, Maybe so but I wasn't thinking of the safety issue when I posted the thread. It's not a modified Bull hammer. I built this one from scratch and redesigned the controls from what Trozack had designed in the original Bull. I can move the stroke of the head anywhere on the column and can adjust the length of the stroke as well. How fast the hammer reciprocates is still controlled with the throttle exhaust valve. So although it looks like I'm doing something risky I'm not. I may get my knuckles wacked but I know that the dies will not close. Any of the old Bulls could be retrofitted with these controls. Here is a video that shows them. I posted it shortly after the hammer was built. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMYEwkcgcXk&list=FL-3FGnWL4eKUK7KwSMutEqw&index=36

Thank you John.

Bruce, we all have those stories if you've been beating metal long enough. Some times things go wrong. But if you are a thinking man (or woman) you anticipate the possibilities and move in another direction. You always knew who was the shaper man in a wood shop was by the missing finger :) .

So you think I'm a little wacko for holding that butcher in my hand? Well, not to worry. I'm not that crazy after all. That is no stock Bull hammer. I have the stroke set to about 1/2 inch below the top of the butcher. If it gets knocked out, the head will reverse direction in about an inch and dies will not close.

Just do a Google or Bing search for Baldwin locks. Lots of places sell them online.

Bruce, I also would never hold a chisel in my hand under one of your hammers. :wacko: Jim Coke's hammer looks like a fancy Zipmax don't you think?