Tracemaster

Alright Frosty if you think I'm making excuses go ahead and be done, that goes for anyone else as well, I can tell where I'm not wanted. Just know you know nothing of where I am in life, so next time you accuse someone of making excuses maybe get your facts straight first.

Well Latticino I am on a tight budget the way I see it, if I take everybody's advise I'm gonna be in hole the and out of propane before this forge is done. I bought the regulator so if nothing else I can maybe wait till I get a job and pick this up at a later date, building everything from scratch from it and my anvil. Man I wish I could use charcoal it's so much simpler.

Do you mean this thing that at least to me looks nothing at all like my burner?

Irondragon ForgeClay Works, makes sense.

Larricino, this is the first I have seen you. I don't know if you read this entire post or not but I know nothing of burners (still working on learning more). So what is a gas crossmember and air inlet? I will say the pictures I took do look quite different than they do in real life however.

Ok so what would you call kast o lite other than castable refractory cement? I looked up HVAC supply Cheyenne Wyoming and got places like Marvs heating and plumbing, who usually don't sell parts to people, or when they do they charge twice what the big box stores do. The biggest issue I run into is going to, let's say Menards, they almost never have exactly what I'm looking for. So for example when I made my charcoal forge I was looking for a 1" diameter steel pipe. The smallest thing they had was a 2 foot long pipe nipple, So i bought It, cut it with my angle grinder and taped it to a hair dryer, using aluminum tape.

That is supposed to say nipple pipes yes

Yes I read it, do you mean pricing for shipping? The next part is irrelevant if you say yes. I assume you need to pay with card and need to be 18, meaning I would need to convince my mother sign up and put in an order, meaning once she places the order (if I can even convince her to buy off of this kind of website) there is no cancelling if shipping is to high. Also high temp tools seems to be cheaper, and is defiantly more likely for me to be able to convince my mom to buy from since it is a dedicated buying website for blacksmiths supplies.

Where are you getting these numbers from exactly? Last time i bought 1" inch steel pipe (outer diameter) the cheapest you could get it was $12, granted you got 2 feet of it but still. What i will tell you is for the forge and railroad track I paid $50, that was at the time cheaper than buying, and about the same price as making a burner given the resources I had. Admittedly I did not check high temp tools for ceramic fiber insulation, thinking they would be similar in price to ebay or amazon, but i see now they are much cheaper but what about rigidizer? From what I have always heard you need that and a castable cement coating. Cement is heavy so I was mostly concerned about that collapsing it more than the steel, i would just be really saddened if I made an entire foge and insulated it only to put a piece of rebar in and that be "the straw that broke the camels back". Oh and nipple pies were $10, maybe i'm looking at the wrong stuff, if your saying 10-15 dollar to make a burner.

My forge without insulation is well over 000 cubic inches, but with 2 inches of insulation it's a touch over 680 cubic inches. How exactly would you reduce the volume besides adding a bunch of insulation? My main concern with the using such thin metal is the weight of the cement and metal i put into it collapsing it. (planning on possibly using just castable cement for insulation due to durability and being potentially cheaper than ceramic fiber).

So I was reading through the gas forge forms and made a discovery, the chamber on my forge is to big for a single burner. So I'm going to have to make a new one. I have made a charcoal forge before or of a metal bucket, but I was wondering if I can go with even thinner metal, say a steel popcorn tin or planters nut can?

I thought I would ask since I need to plan trips to these places strategically (hoping that will stop within the next year).

Sadly funds are an issue, I can cut the pipe length no problem but building a new burner is likely out of the question, and buying a drill press defiantly is. Right now I'm working on the cheapest way to effectively insulate the forge, and remove the current lining. As you saw the burner home straight into the tank, will a regulator with a hose hook onto the burner? Also what about the ones without hoses?

I missed the part where you said you needed the regulator to find out if you needed to replace the burner. It still doesn't. It does not have one yet because of this. I should elaborate on the regulator then, if I go on eBay because that's my only way to get a high pressure regulator and purchase one rated for propane doesn't matter brands or anything it should work right? Hey Frazer why don't you give me this book, maybe I can find a answer to all of the "things I should know but was never taught*

Here is a video of the burner running in lower light conditions VID_20200901_150339747.mp4

I know none of these terms, no I can't disassemble it it's all soldered together. Looks like 1-in pipe about 3/4 inner diameter. This is the only thing I can think of that you could be talking about since I've already posted pictures of everything else. Again I don't know any of these terms.

The forum does sell it apparently. Will any 0-30 psi regulator work, and do an I need a new burner? I'm looking at prices and thinking no way I can afford all this so I need to know what I'm looking at.

The biggest problem I'm running into is finding refractory that has an appropriate heat rating, or the materials to make refractory.

I don't plan to put doors on it since I know I'm going to be dealing with materials that will stick out both ends but I do plan to re line it. Forge was running for these pictures but it's hard to tell in the daylight.

Got some help uploading photos. Wait so a regulators not part of the burner? That makes a lot more sense. How much can I expect to spend on a regulator? I bought the forge before I knew this forum existed and I got it because the it cost less than buying a new burner.

All I know is what you saw got hooked to the propane tank and it's a amerigas propane tank from Walmart.

Look it's obvious It's obvious I know nothing about propane. The only exception being checking for leaks. I don't even know what a regulator is and I can't find anything that explains what everything is and does. So I guess I should rephrase what EXACTLY does a regulator do? I hate it when people send me to the read this first thread. I have read it a thousand times. Right now I am on my phone the picture I was able to upload I just took. But it won't let me upload anything else, I don't know what this resizing is or how to do it, but I shouldn't have to since I took the pictures on the same device, I would think.

So what I have to make an entirely different burner?

Well first thing I don't mean to be rude but I never said I made this thing, and I didn't. I mentioned that I know plaster is not great and I plan on re lining it. I tried to upload pictures but I'm having problems. This is the one picture it will allow me to upload. Let's start with what the heck's a regulator. I bought this forge and my anvil for cheap and now I'm trying to fix it.

I have a propane forge made out of an old propane tank, and a a home made burner. It's lined with fire brick and the white stuff is a mix of sand and plaster of Paris (I know not great) but I a ordinary 8d nail in the chamber. For an hour but it never got hot. I did the same thing with a piece of 1/2 inch rebar, same thing. What could be causing this?