thanks, regarding the "3a. Pro tip #1: When doing your research, don't bother with the Search box up at the top of the page; it's pretty worthless. Go to google and include "site:iforgeiron.com" as one of your search terms." thats pretty much what I used but checking out google now. thank you im navigating through the site now, ive been forging for a while but just switching from Venturi to a ribbon burner