I used a brake drum forge when I started forging and it worked great for knives it is not that hard to build and you can get all the parts at the hardware store i used a hair dryer for a blower. //www.anvilfire.com/index.php?bodyName=/21centbs/forges/brkdrum1.htm&titleName=anvilfire.com%20Blacksmithing%20FAQs%20 this link might help you